China Forces Seven Month Abortion....... Photo Causes World Wide Outrage

blogspot.com ^ | June 14, 2012

[Darren McCarty]

Damn. I saw my old baby picture at 3 days. That was bigger than I was after I was born.

It ain't right. Ain't right at all.

[dinodino]

You are a complete idiot.

[ansel12]

Their party’s platform is the only honest thing about libertarians, it is where the rubber meets the road, and it all reflects true libertarianism.

Abortion is fundamental to libertarianism, as is homsexualizing the military and gay marriage, porn, and so on, it is why abortion remains in the platform, and why libertarian influence in the GOP is leading to a pro-abortion position, such as we saw in 2012.

[ansel12]

You lefties just aren’t very bright are you, but man are you emotional.

[dinodino]

Well, at least you are consistent: with each post, you double down on your stupidity.

You really think that classical libertarians are “Left?” Why don’t you read some Locke, Hobbes, and Paine before posting any further. You make yourself look like an uneducated moron.

By the way, watch your capitalization: libertarian != Libertarian.

[Libloather]

she could not pay the fine

How much is Hussein's Commiecare™ fine, again?

[rhinohunter]

This story will make ubama jealous...

[christx30]

The officers will be punished, huh? That’ll for sure bring back that baby or help that grieving mother.
Wish there had been a chance to kill those officers before they killed the baby.

[Viennacon]

Libertarianism is essentially the sole belief in liberty alone. It dictates that society can function as long as there is full liberty, regardless of any other factor. Libertarianism worked in the days of the Founders, because people were generally more moral (excluding the obvious issue of slavery). The Founders would have been horrified by the idea of murdering a child, or two men getting married. There was no need to legislate against such things because nobody who wasn’t crazy engaged in those acts. It was just unacceptable. The government didn’t need to protect the institution of marriage, because it was safely guarded (for the most part) by human decency. Society has changed (thanks in part to mass media), and conservatism is really a reactionary movement, aimed at restoring not only liberty (which is essential to society), but also morality (which is the other half of the equation.)

This is why I am a conservative. Society is at its best when man has both the freedom to do what is desired, but the morality to do what is right. It’s a check and balance of the human soul, if you will. Liberals complain that we want cameras in bedrooms and such. I don’t want cameras in bedroom, but I do want prayer in school. Maybe then the youth of this country would be a little less degenerate, but no, Heaven forbid you bring religion into education!

And for the record, this picture is horrific. It is like some scene from a nightmare. How any sane country could be part of an organization with China on the Human Rights Council is beyond me. Sickening.

[PapaBear3625]

My libertarianism is in contrast to statism, and not to be confused with the flawed platform of the Libertarian Party. Conservatism alone does not properly distinguish itself from statism. My views are essentially in the Conservative-libertarian quad. To your point about Life, a libertarian must value the life-right of each individual especially the most vulnerable. Only a hypocritical asshat would espouse libertarianism but deny it for nascent life.

This libertarian agrees with you.

[ansel12]

Lefty is, as lefty does.

Here is the leftists agenda hidden behind the Libertarian Party curtain.

Libertarian Party Platform:

Throw open the borders completely; only a rare individual (terrorist, disease carrier etc.) can be kept from freedom of movement through “political boundaries”.

Homosexuals; total freedom in the military, gay marriage, adoption, child custody and everything else.

Abortion; zero restrictions or impediments.

Pornography; no restraint, no restrictions.

Drugs; Meth, Heroin, Crack, and anything new that science can come up with, zero restrictions.

Advertising those drugs, prostitution, and pornography; zero restrictions.

Military Strength; minimal capabilities.

[Secret Agent Man]

well libtards, there’s no story here, haven’t you been screeching to us for 50 years abortion doesn’t murder a person?

[ansel12]

Good post.

[dinodino]

Again, you have confused “libertarian (classical)” with “Libertarian (Party).” Not sure what else to tell you, other than to try cracking a book sometime. This country was founded on libertarian principles.

[Gene Eric]

Sometimes it helps to have definitions:

definition: an exact statement or description of the nature, scope, or meaning of something.

libertarianism: an extreme laissez-faire political philosophy advocating only minimal state intervention in the lives of citizens.

statism: a political system in which the state has substantial centralized control over social and economic affairs.

liberalism: a political orientation that favors social progress by reform and by changing laws rather than by revolution

conservatism: a political or theological orientation advocating the preservation of the best in society and opposing radical changes

If you don't accept these definitions, then there's no point continuing the discussion. But assuming you do...

The Libertarian Party represents libertarianism as well as the Republican Party represents conservatism.

The Life issue is differentiated by conservatism and liberalism, not libertarianism and statism. Libertarianism and statism differentiate enforcement, not morality.

Many self-described Conservatives are in actuality Conservative-statists as they prefer the assistance of govt enforced morality. I'd rather have less govt enforcement where the issues are resolved at the local level.

It's the enforcement factor of statism that is responsible for the decay of traditional values as the Conservative-statists are currently losing to the Liberal-statists (aka, Leftwing). This has nothing to do with libertarianism as any Libertarianism that results in the enactment of law is generally not libertarianism.

For the record, I prefer Conservative-statism to Liberal-statism, but prefer Conservative-libertarianism above all.

[ansel12]

Libertarians define themselves by fighting conservatism and supporting the left in homosexualizing the military, gay marriage, abortion, porn, drugs, open borders, the homosexual agenda, anti-conservatism.

Liberaltarians can play word games all day long, from Noam Chomsky to Ron Paul and Bill Maher, libertarians all.

[momtothree]

“... the left is going to claim the photo was staged, and with good reason”.

I don’t know, Mr. K. China does some despicable things with respect to abortion and they have been known to illustrate what they did to make a point. A few years back, I read a human rights report about the Chinese government going into a small village and drowning all second born babies. They did it in front of all the townspeople.. to make a point. Ignore the law and we will kill the baby. Submit to our rules. Unfortunately, it is not beyond the spectrum of reason that the government is using this incident to once again show what they can do if someone goes against the law. Just a thought...

[dinodino]

Perfectly put, but I’m afraid that it will be lost on ansel12, like explaining calculus to a goat.

[Gene Eric]

Your indifference to rigor is intolerable.

[Gene Eric]

I tried.