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To: ansel12
Sometimes it helps to have definitions:

definition: an exact statement or description of the nature, scope, or meaning of something.

libertarianism: an extreme laissez-faire political philosophy advocating only minimal state intervention in the lives of citizens.

statism: a political system in which the state has substantial centralized control over social and economic affairs.

liberalism: a political orientation that favors social progress by reform and by changing laws rather than by revolution

conservatism: a political or theological orientation advocating the preservation of the best in society and opposing radical changes

If you don't accept these definitions, then there's no point continuing the discussion. But assuming you do...

The Libertarian Party represents libertarianism as well as the Republican Party represents conservatism.

The Life issue is differentiated by conservatism and liberalism, not libertarianism and statism. Libertarianism and statism differentiate enforcement, not morality.

Many self-described Conservatives are in actuality Conservative-statists as they prefer the assistance of govt enforced morality. I'd rather have less govt enforcement where the issues are resolved at the local level.

It's the enforcement factor of statism that is responsible for the decay of traditional values as the Conservative-statists are currently losing to the Liberal-statists (aka, Leftwing). This has nothing to do with libertarianism as any Libertarianism that results in the enactment of law is generally not libertarianism.

For the record, I prefer Conservative-statism to Liberal-statism, but prefer Conservative-libertarianism above all.


35 posted on 02/05/2013 4:59:17 PM PST by Gene Eric (The Palin Doctrine.)
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To: Gene Eric; dinodino

Libertarians define themselves by fighting conservatism and supporting the left in homosexualizing the military, gay marriage, abortion, porn, drugs, open borders, the homosexual agenda, anti-conservatism.

Liberaltarians can play word games all day long, from Noam Chomsky to Ron Paul and Bill Maher, libertarians all.


36 posted on 02/05/2013 5:06:45 PM PST by ansel12 (Romney is a longtime supporter of homosexualizing the Boy Scouts (and the military).)
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To: Gene Eric

Perfectly put, but I’m afraid that it will be lost on ansel12, like explaining calculus to a goat.


38 posted on 02/05/2013 5:18:59 PM PST by dinodino
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