Posted on 10/12/2012 2:37:06 PM PDT by Chuckmorse
The debate between VP nominees Joe Biden and Paul Ryan reminded me of the debates I've had over the years with left-wingers on my radio show and privately. Left-wingers think nothing of lying and playing dirty because they believe in power and in the principle that anything goes to keep their power. Regarding the Biden-Ryan debate I read a post-debate tweet from a left-wing talk show host who claimed that Biden "creamed" Ryan. From a left prospective he is right.
Biden did everything he could to dominate the debate and to stop Ryan from talking including constant rude interruptions and the assumption of variations of the type of ugly and insulting mannerisms that I've seen left-wingers take on in similar situations including smirking, smiling, cooing, gurgling, giggling, waving his arms and throwing out weird slang expressions. In other words, in true revolutionary fashion, Biden jumped ugly on Ryan.
Paul Ryan, like most conservatives, is a normal person who chose to focus on issues and statistics. But this is where Ryan, like most conservatives in similar situations, fell short in the field of battle. As difficult as it is, conservatives have to be prepared to play as dirty as the left and Ryan's approach was all too decent. Thus Ryan perhaps forfeited he field to the bully Biden.
This does not by any means mean that Ryan lost the debate or that his performance in any way negatively affected the Romney-Ryan momentum. That remains to be seen. Hopefully, the voters will look beyond what the media is focused on which is the style and the appearances of the candidates and the horse-race. Instead, hopefully, the voter will ask which side they trust more to deal with unemployment, rising prices, and looming problems of the coming years such as the effects of the exploding debt and deficit and the nuclear development in Iran.
Not bullied, more like bowled over by Raditz and Biden tag teaming him.
This guy?
Ryan should not have let Biden lie about Ryan sending him a letter requesting stimulus funds.
Mr. Ryan is too much of a gentleman to be bullied by such a rectal orifice.
I disagree somewhat about this part: “But this is where Ryan, like most conservatives in similar situations, fell short in the field of battle. As difficult as it is, conservatives have to be prepared to play as dirty as the left and Ryan’s approach was all too decent. Thus Ryan perhaps forfeited he field to the bully Biden.”
It is true that Ryan should have refused to be so-often interrupted by his opponent and the moderator, as Romney so admirably refused to do last week.
But for the most part, Ryan’s cool-but-not-cold demeanor was perfect for assuring UNDECIDED voters — the true intended audience, after all — that “I’m the mature, sober, serious one who is NOT rattled by this fossilized clown of a VP over here.” Biden was trying to rattle Ryan, and that failed. (Biden also was trying to rouse the base, but who cares? They’re already in the bag for Obama.)
No he was not bullied . I admire him for tolerating that old coot for an hour and a half with out hitting the nurse button so Biden could go suck on some tapioca.
Ryan admitted it though.
Yeah!!! That is pretty much my thought too.
HGe wasn’t bullied, he was harassed and annoyed, but Biden inspired no fear in the man. Biden was like a happy drunk. In fact he probably was a happy drunk that night.I would bet he would have blown a .21 on a Breathalyser/
http://radio.foxnews.com/2012/08/16/ryan-denied-asking-for-stimulus-money-then-admitted-request-bearing-his-signature/#.UHiQcBgxuUc
Well said and apparently it made Ryan look good. This was a lot of people’s first look at Ryan and Joe’s behavior helped Ryan create a favorable impression of his personality.
Obama needed Joe to please the “red meat” liberals and he did. A bad sign of the state of his campaign though that he has to worry more about pleasing his base instead of reaching out to ‘moderates’ this late in the campaign.
And here’s how civilly two sitting US House Democrats (redistricted together) debate LOL!
http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Calif-House-race-with-veteran-Dems-turns-physical-3941524.php
“...one aggressively seized the shoulder of his opponent during a debate, yanked him toward his chest and shouted, “You want to get into this?”
I don’t think Ryan allowed himself to be bullied. I think Ryan realized that Biden was making an a$$ of himself, so he gave him enough rope to do it.
Ryan looked like a rational adult male.
Garbage. Ryan did exactly what he had to do. The left is not smiling today.
Two things turned me off immediately when I started watching the debates: that highly unattractive, unkempt and unprofessional female moderator who was unable to control the proceedings and the condescending sneer on Smirk’n Joe’s face.
Was able to suffer through the first five minutes before I had to refill my drink and change channels to watch Steelers/Titans.
Sheesh, this was no debate — this was an attempt by the MSM and the VP to publicly mug a candidate. What a total farce.
Bullied no, sullied yes.
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