Posted on 07/15/2012 3:46:27 PM PDT by cap10mike
Could Texas once again become the Republic of Texas?
Without question, the Nov. 6 election will be a do-or-die, make-or-break, Rubicon-crossing event. If the presidential election goes one way, we get a “do-over.” We’ll be given the opportunity to take the first step on a long, arduous journey back to our political and economic roots. If it goes the other way, federalism and balance of power will continue to be edged out by an overreaching federal government and an imperial presidency. Socialism will have an unbreakable hold on the economy, and a centralized government, rather than a free market, will determine business’ winners and losers.
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These words come to mind: “When in the Course of human events, it becomes necessary for one people to dissolve the political bands which have connected them with another, and to assume among the powers of the earth, the separate and equal station to which the Laws of Nature and of Nature’s God entitle them, a decent respect to the opinions of mankind requires that they should declare the causes which impel them to the separation.”
“Does Washington *really* want to shoot at “fellow Americans”? It’s not 1861 anymore.”
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BINGO! It’s pretty much a dare for Texas to come at them. I have always said that most military people (including my cousin who serves near the DMZ in Sokor), have stated emphatically that they hate obama. WHEN this p-resident tells the Armed forces to go into Texas, you think anyone with a sane mind will the troops actually do it?
Those same GI’s would arrest the p-resident.
6 states had already seceded by the time of the decision, with a seventh, Texas seceding on the date of the memorandum. The shooting hadn’t begun, but Taney, who was a Unionist, certainly knew it was coming.
“No power or right is constitutional but what can be exercised in a form or mode provided in the constitution for its exercise.”
Taney is making this up. If it were true it would nullify the 9th and 10th Amendments.
Odd that you would adopt a view expressed in a memorandum written by the judge who authored the Dred Scott decision.
All federal laws and treaties along with the Constitution are supreme from 4 March 1789 on and amendments there after.
So unilateral state succession is illegal and has been since the constitution took effect.
Article VI - Clause 2, Supremacy
This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.
From Texas v. White (1869)
Considered therefore as transactions under the Constitution, the ordinance of secession, adopted by the convention and ratified by a majority of the citizens of Texas, and all the acts of her legislature intended to give effect to that ordinance, were absolutely null. They were utterly without operation in law.
Texas was previously an independent republic. It is written in its constitution that, that is one of their rights Somehow it is also written in the deal they made with the USA when granted statehood
Go to Oklahoma until you smell it.
Go south until you step in it.
The right of revolution in the face of tyranny is God-given and no constitution can take it away. This citation of the US Supreme Court to the contrary is laughable - of course that is their position. Just as it was the British governmenr’s before them.
Texas has some of the most leftwing politicians in the country, but they pretend they don’t. John Cornyn may be the most destructive Senator of all. He is a one man jihad against conservative, yet the GOP put him back in charge of the RNSC, so he can wreak more destruction upon the country.
Chief Justice Roger Taney - the man who declared that negros weren’t really people but only property and the man considered by many to be the “father” of The Fugitive Slave Act. (Henry Ward Beecher, the great abolitionist preacher, when asked what he wanted written on his tombstone, declared that it should read “Here lies Henry Ward Beecher. I spit on the Fugitive Slave Act.”) And as far as the USA “invading” a seceded Texas, most of the officers and soldiers in the army are from the south and/or Texas. What percentage of them do you think would open fire on their fellow Americans who feel the same way they probably do? This is all academic since Obama is going to be trounced but I’m surprised how many Freepers are ready to blindly accept anything the Supreme Court says - aren’t you glad those men at the Concord Bridge didn’t feel that way?
W R O N G :)
I wonder about some of us. I truly do.
Work on real solutions (replace/ignore GOP elite), not this idiocy.
The Constitution forms a government, not a league.... Each state having expressly parted with so many powers as to constitute jointly with other nations, a single nation, cannot from that period, posses any right to secede, because such succession does not break a league, but destroys the unity of a nation.... To say that any state may at pleasure secede from the union is to say that the United States is not a nation.... Because the union was formed by a compact, it is said that the parties to that compact may, when they feel themselves aggrieved, depart from it; but it is precisely because it is a compact that they may not. A compact is a binding obligation....
I hope a bunch of other states including mine go with Texas.
There will be war if that happens. And I’m glad I’m a Texan.
And by what right would Texas secure the property of the US government: Arms, planes, tanks, nukes, etc. All of these belong to the US Government and would not become the property of Texas.
Who are you to decide what is idiotic? What's your solution? If you honestly believe that the GOP is suddenly going to become Reagan-conservative any time soon than you are a dreamer. If on the other hand you believe a 3rd party can actually win than THAT is lunacy.
Also, if you don't like the thread ... leave.
We have the SCOTUS rulings on the subject and you want to claim they are not good enough. It does not get any more absurd than that.
And if Texas seceded , it would start a rip right up the center of the country—splitting the country in half. In the end we would have three countries, and a ton of pissed off Chinese who wonder where they will get their coupons cashed.
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