Skip to comments.If Obama wins: Will Texas secede from the union?
Posted on 07/15/2012 3:46:27 PM PDT by cap10mike
Could Texas once again become the Republic of Texas?
Without question, the Nov. 6 election will be a do-or-die, make-or-break, Rubicon-crossing event. If the presidential election goes one way, we get a do-over. Well be given the opportunity to take the first step on a long, arduous journey back to our political and economic roots. If it goes the other way, federalism and balance of power will continue to be edged out by an overreaching federal government and an imperial presidency. Socialism will have an unbreakable hold on the economy, and a centralized government, rather than a free market, will determine business winners and losers.
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So have some kids. The means justifies the end.
Odd how some folks get all ‘consent of the governed’ until those nasty brown people get the vote. Then they are all about doing something drastic.
Government 'personal reliability program' people are in the same boat as government housing people and government medical care.
Anything the Fed touches, turns to crap quickly.
The only thing they do well is kill people and break things.
So rub some brain cells, and don’t get on their list.
Slick, I'm fine being on a list those guys have.
I will NOT be intimidated into shutting up.
You can kill me, or you can let me have my freedom.
You can't lock me up without killing me.
Let's us dance.
If you’re on FR you’re on The List.
So you would rather begin a civil war, rather than take a plane ticket?
Ah, no brain cells. Well do what you have to.
...and it was illegal for the United States to secede from Great Britain. Our Declaration of Independence is very clear. When government becomes tyrannical, a people not only have a God given right to cast off their oppressors, they have the responsibility to do so.
I had a dream the other day....
“Seems clear enough to me. We have to come up with an official declaration, listing anew the current long train of abuses, to nullify the overreaching oppression, fortified by the language in the original DOI, signed by the governors of the 26 or so states that wish to remain free, then have at it.”
“The trillions in U.S. debt? King Barry can keep it.”
“The United Free States of America ! “ I like the sound of that”. (Goldie Wilson, bttf)”
“As easily the U.N. would recognize all of the “Arab Spring” revolutionaries, I am sure that we would be recognized too. Or not. Eff ‘em.”
“I will move my family to a free state away from Kah-lee-for-nia and join the free militia that will defend it.”
“Withhold all taxes that would have gone to King Barry’s coffers, redirecting them to the new free government.”
“The Marxists are always crying about cutting the Military. So why not, in the lead up to such dissolution of ties to King Barry, we should quietly close all military bases in democrat states, so that when we pull the trigger on such dissolution, there would be no military for King Barry.”
“Sweep all Marxists and Islamists from our midst.”
“If King Barry moved against us, then he will lose.”
“Then pick off neighboring Democrat states one by one, converting them to free states, escorting all of their America-hating residents to Cuba, or North Korea or any other Commie paradise of their choice.”
“Gradually, all that will be left is the District of Columbia for the Commie politicians to hold up.”
‘Oh, say, did you see? By the rise of free states?”
The bottom line is you don’t get to use force to remove Texas from the Union.
I recommend you not try.
The bottom line is you lust after using force to impose Obama’s rule on any state.
You are even willing, if not eager, to nuke anyone who tries to get away.
When the war started, a large group of officers (and enlisted soldiers) left the union forces to go home and fight for their states. If they were guilty of treason, why weren’t they arrested on the spot, when they submitted their resignation papers?
I believe they were allowed to leave because people (in general) thought those people had the right to do so.
Re: “Whats going to happen to Texas political demographics 20-30 years from now?”
You’re an optimist.
I’ve been predicting that Texas will vote for the Democrat presidential nominee in 2020, eight years from now.
The GOP leadership, and most mainstream Conservative publications, will never acknowledge that 80% of new immigrant citizens vote for the Democrat Party.
If American Conservatism is not destroyed in the short term by our insane immigration policy, it will be destroyed in the long term - as you point out - by political demography.
Because California is so much better, right? O.o
soooo a bad decision makes Obamacare constitutional too, right?
Think of 1857, when the court handed down the outrageous Dred Scott decision, which said African Americans were not citizens. Think of the separate but equal doctrine in Plessy v. Ferguson, which the court later repudiated in Brown v. Board of Education.
your the type who would shake his head in disbelief as they pushed you forward into a cattlecar headed toward a death camp...mumbling something about the constitution and the supreme court.
as a New Yorker( who has spent time a little time in Texas)....I tell my Northeast-centric wife(who is xenophobic of all things south of the mason-dixon) that if and when the feces hits the fan, I will run down to Texas and help them man the barricades on the borders both north and south.
All of those states are just getting a few of their own tax dollars back. And when the govt. goes broke from poor management and communism, the subsidies will stop anyway. Can’t pay what you do not have.
I’m not calling for Texas to leave the US immediately, although the thought is intriguing, BUT, if the Zero by chance gets re-elected, within months, a lot of people in red states will wanting out. I don’t feel like I will be alone.
One goal communists always have is to control the food. So all the mid country farmers need to remember that,too
Best case is for Zero gone, new administration full of conservative R’s even if the one at the top is not too conservative.
I’ve said it on other threads, I’ll say it again, Zero has to go, along with Holder, and all the czars.( That title was borrowed from Russia too)
I recommend you not try.
Kill a man, and you are a murderer. Kill millions of men, and you are a conqueror. Kill everyone, and you are a god.
Last call for the train to Bergen-Belsen. All aboard for Bergen-Belsen....
I almost forgot the song dedication to mom.
From FIRE FALL
These South hating thugs on Free Republic would make Nazi’s blush.
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