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10 Disturbing SHTF Threats that most Preppers Havenít Prepared For
Off Grid Survival ^ | 6/23/12

Posted on 06/23/2012 7:47:45 AM PDT by Kartographer

1. No Law Enforcement 2. Fake Law Enforcement 3. Law Enforcement and the Military Will Try to Take Your Guns. 4. Gangs & Raiders 5. You need to be able to Defend Yourself. 6. Garbage will become a Killer. 7. You have to Stock up on Sanitation Items 8. Maintaining a Positive Mental Attitude during a Survival Situation 9. You must be prepared to face a number of physical and mental challenges. 10. You will be cut off from the outside World.

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KEYWORDS: preparedness; preppers; shtf; survival; survivalist
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To: Copenhagen Smile

[but also other things like toilet paper,]

You can wipe with a damp rag. It is re-usable. Water will be VERY important.

For survival...

Water
Food
Shelter
Ammo

In that order. Not JMHO.


21 posted on 06/23/2012 8:23:05 AM PDT by SolidRedState (I used to think bizarro world was a fiction.)
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To: Kartographer

If I need that suit, I’ll probably use one of my bullets on myself.

I’ll be glad to trade you a box of 30-06 for a 50 pound bag of rice if that ever becomes necessary. Rice goes well with game. Perhaps I’ll stock up on condiments as well. Worcestershire sauce and Tabasco may be quite valuable as well. I suspect everybody will have salt and pepper.


22 posted on 06/23/2012 8:23:35 AM PDT by Poser (Cogito ergo Spam - I think, therefore I ham)
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To: Copenhagen Smile

I did. I got four 55 gallon drums to burn my trash in if it becomes necessary. And I live in the city.


23 posted on 06/23/2012 8:26:11 AM PDT by packrat35 (Admit it! We are almost ready to be called a police state!)
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To: Kartographer; Poser
Gospel According To Me:

NEVER TRADE YOUR AMMO AWAY.

The bullet you trade in the morning will be shot back at you before sunset. You are doing nothing more than arming your future attackers.

And how/when will you resupply? The gummint won't trade you ammo. Will you survive the trek to the nearest WallyWorld to get more? And fight off the zombie hordes who are sacking the place because they didn't prep?

The ultimate trading/bartering item during SHTF will not be ammo; nor will it be "precious" metals; not even food. It will be WATER. Those of us with a well, or with a cache or a rain catchment system, will be far better off than the zombies who will drink the land dry in a matter of days.

How many people will be willing to show up on the bridge, begging "relief workers" for Evian bottles, with the MSM cameras rolling?

24 posted on 06/23/2012 8:27:35 AM PDT by Old Sarge (Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc... not just pretty words...)
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To: Poser
I expect to be able to barter ammo for food.

And have it used back on you? Not a good idea.

25 posted on 06/23/2012 8:28:15 AM PDT by bgill
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To: Kartographer

If 1,2,3,4 and 5 are properly taken care of, 6 and 7 become a significant issue in that: What do you do with the bodies?


26 posted on 06/23/2012 8:31:20 AM PDT by KrisKrinkle (Blessed be those who know the depth and breadth of their ignorance. Cursed be those who don't.)
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To: Kartographer

Stock up on bleach... For treating water, cuts, etc.


27 posted on 06/23/2012 8:34:53 AM PDT by baddog 219
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To: bgill

You could wrap it up as something else and then put it somewhere for someone to steal. ;-)


28 posted on 06/23/2012 8:35:45 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Poser

Shhhh... My wealth building plan is making and selling condiments to fellow SHTF survivors. Mustards, ketchup, pickles, sauces, etc.

My grand kids will be richer than the Heinz family when New America rises from the ashes.


29 posted on 06/23/2012 8:36:56 AM PDT by The KG9 Kid (Semper Fi)
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To: KrisKrinkle

I have 3 labs that need feeding. Bodies will do when the dogfood runs out.


30 posted on 06/23/2012 8:37:39 AM PDT by packrat35 (Admit it! We are almost ready to be called a police state!)
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To: SolidRedState
When I was a kid back in the 60s we burned all our garbage. Things that didn't burn like glass,cans,etc were at least sanitized by the fire so there was no smell or rotting food to attract vermin. We used to love those Aqua-Net cans in the fire barrel! BOOM!
31 posted on 06/23/2012 8:37:39 AM PDT by 4yearlurker (No matter who you elect,the government eventually gets in.)
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To: baddog 219

Bleach is very, very useful but remember it goes bad fairly quickly. I mean in a year or so, not weeks or months.


32 posted on 06/23/2012 8:38:22 AM PDT by yarddog
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To: baddog 219

Better yet stock up on Calcium Hypochlorite. You can treat your water and make gallons of clean solution from just a pound of it!

http://readynutrition.com/resources/better-than-bleach-use-calcium-hypochlorite-to-disinfect-water_19062010/


33 posted on 06/23/2012 8:38:42 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Old Sarge

I make my own ammo. I can make more. If ammo is still scarce when I run out of primers and powder, I will have led a long life.

Water? Perhaps in urban environments where you only have to transport it short distances. If you are the only one with water in your area, it won’t matter how much ammo you have.

The survivors will not be in urban areas. They will be in rural areas with water, land and game. Urban dwellers will simply be using up the few months of supplies they have stored. They will probably be the first ones killed in any case.

Water is an absolute requirement, but a lousy commodity to hoard or transport when fuel and spare parts for vehicles are not available. Live near your water supply.


34 posted on 06/23/2012 8:39:56 AM PDT by Poser (Cogito ergo Spam - I think, therefore I ham)
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To: Kartographer

Is your primary home “prepped”?

Do you have a backup location?
Do you have multiple routes to that location?

Do you have designated “bug-out” supplies to take with you?
Have you figured out what fits in your vehicle and prioritized properly?


35 posted on 06/23/2012 8:52:07 AM PDT by G Larry (There's no hope of a safe landing when you hire a suicidal pilot!)
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To: Old Sarge; Poser; bgill
I can't help but think of the scene from 'Jeremiah Johnson' were he finds the guy froze to death with the broken leg, but with the note reading Something like this:

I John Doe lay here dead because that bleep ass saw bones wanted two bricks of .22's to set my leg. Now to ever finds my body: NO YOU CAN'T HAVE MY AMMO IN TRADE FOR BURYING ME! ;-)
36 posted on 06/23/2012 8:52:50 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

#10 is also critical

Learn about Ham Radios this weekend! Experts in your area this weekend!! This could save your life one day!!

Saturday and Sunday, the public will have a chance to meet and talk with local ham radio operators and see for themselves what amateur radio service is about at the annual Field Day. Showing the newest digital and satellite capabilities, voice communications and even historical Morse code, hams across the nation will hold public demonstrations of emergency communications abilities.

ARRL Field Day is This Weekend: Are You Ready?
TAGS: amateur radio, amateur radio operators, arrl, arrl field day, Field Day, Field Day Locator, hams, malls, proclamations, twitter
06/19/2012

Tens of thousands of Amateur Radio operators will be firing up portable radio stations from unexpected locations this weekend for ARRL Field Day. On June 23-24, over 35,000 hams are expected to operate from parks, malls, schools and. yes, fields, around the country.

Field Day is the climax of the week-long Amateur Radio Week sponsored by the ARRL. As of June 19, 21 states have issued proclamations thanking and supporting the hams for their community service work, and more are expected to do so.

Looking for a Field Day location? [link to www.arrl.org]
http://www.arrl.org/field-day-locator

Information for media and the general public is at
http://www.arrl.org/2012FieldDay

Information for radio amateurs and participants is at

http://www.arrl.org/field-day

On Twitter you can follow @ARRL.


37 posted on 06/23/2012 8:55:21 AM PDT by Whenifhow
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To: Poser
Advice From a Sarajevo War Survivor:"Living near a well with a manual pump is like being in Eden."
38 posted on 06/23/2012 8:57:32 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Old Sarge
The ultimate trading/bartering item during SHTF will not be ammo; nor will it be "precious" metals; not even food. It will be WATER.

I have to respectfully disagree.

While water is important, I believe that trade items will be what have been trade items historically.

Booze and tobacco.

/johnny

39 posted on 06/23/2012 8:57:48 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

You left out something older johnny, but then this is a family forum. ;-)


40 posted on 06/23/2012 9:00:15 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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