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10 Disturbing SHTF Threats that most Preppers Haven’t Prepared For
Off Grid Survival ^ | 6/23/12

Posted on 06/23/2012 7:47:45 AM PDT by Kartographer

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To: JRandomFreeper; Old Sarge

See Post #97 this thread.

So tell me how do you boys like your coffee?


121 posted on 06/23/2012 4:01:43 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer
I grew up in a family that built sewage treatment and water treatment plants (not in the same place). So I got a grip on the water situation. ;)

/johnny

122 posted on 06/23/2012 4:15:26 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Kartographer

8. Maintaining a Positive Mental Attitude during a Survival Situation

One of THE MOST important points IMO! You can have all the guns you want but without hope all is lost. The will to live is what I gather kept many POW’s alive.....


123 posted on 06/23/2012 4:54:12 PM PDT by jakerobins
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To: EBH

Oh wow. I was on duty in the KY EOC when that went down.

I was getting posts on the Live Thread from inside the blackout zone. I pasted them together and briefed the State Emergency Mngt. people off of what I got from FR!

Looks like you took your lessons learned to heart!


124 posted on 06/23/2012 5:04:50 PM PDT by Old Sarge (Sic gorgiamus allos subjectatos nunc... not just pretty words...)
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To: baddog 219

Just an FYI, bleach has a shelf life of about a year.


125 posted on 06/23/2012 5:16:11 PM PDT by ChocChipCookie
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To: Kartographer

Obviously the woman did not learn to roll the condom on the banana. /s

You have an excellent point. I am amazed at the lack of “basic” history that many of the younger folks in my office have.


126 posted on 06/23/2012 6:29:02 PM PDT by Professional Engineer (Never Again! Except for the next time.)
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To: MrEdd

Any prepper should prepare to NOT be relying on oil and gas. Wood, solar, maybe wind, and human generated electricity are the only ways, hydro-generation would be great, but rare.


127 posted on 06/23/2012 7:38:05 PM PDT by SgtHooper (The last thing I want to do is hurt you. But it's still on the list.)
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To: Nailbiter

pong


128 posted on 06/23/2012 8:45:33 PM PDT by IncPen (Educating Barack Obama has been the most expensive project in human history)
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To: Old Sarge

Oddly enough I had sufficient to last the 3 days it took to clear the water for drinking again...but boy was it kind of scarey. Listening to the radio reports and how the Mayor couldn’t get enough emergency water tankers for the city of Cleveland. And one needs to be aware that Cleveland water serves more than just the city of Cleveland. They serve a vast majority of suburbs around the city. The stores opened their doors and were handing out the little water they had on hand, along with milk, juice, ice etc. that would be wasted otherwise by the heat.

My suburb actually has it’s own treatment facility. Kinda’ rare in the area and they had a generator. Capacity was lower, but we had potable water. They did ask us though to try and conserve due to capacity concerns. In a SHTF scenario I could see our little college town become a water magnet and maybe even $$$.

Folks talk about having 3 days of stuff on hand, but if things go SHTF a few days of stuff isn’t going to save you if you decide to shelter in place. And even then, once things calm back down it will take the government days and weeks to recover. That leaves one at the mercy of the government water tankers/trucks and the government’s rations. Plus all the local contamination...ewww...


129 posted on 06/24/2012 8:26:12 AM PDT by EBH (Obama took away your American Dreams and replaced them with "Dreams from My (his) Father".)
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To: Kartographer

Indeed. Mostly men posting ‘necessities’ I suspect, because if you have cache of tampons/Tampax to trade with, you will be a rich trader.

If Mama’s not happy ...


130 posted on 06/25/2012 9:50:30 AM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur: non vehere est inermus)
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124 posted on Sat Jun 23 2012 19:04:50 GMT-0500 (Central Daylight Time) by Old Sarge: “Oh wow. I was on duty in the KY EOC when that went down. I was getting posts on the Live Thread from inside the blackout zone. I pasted them together and briefed the State Emergency Mngt. people off of what I got from FR! Looks like you took your lessons learned to heart!”

Now that is the most innovative (and effective) use of Free Republic newsfeeds I've seen yet!

131 posted on 10/02/2012 11:54:20 AM PDT by darrellmaurina
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100 posted on Sat Jun 23 2012 13:32:05 GMT-0500 (Central Daylight Time) by Repeat Offender: “You currently have a large force of service members/veterans that have experience conducting COIN. This means that you have large numbers of people that understand the basic concepts behind things like IEDs, as well as, more advanced concepts like improvised rocket launchers, pressure plate initiators, and explosively formed penetrators. A whole lot of havoc could be wreaked by a relatively few individuals.”

This is not a minor point.

A bit less than a decade ago when I was working for a newspaper in the southwest United States, I was reporting on a man who took over someone else’s house, barricaded himself by pretty much wrecking the contents of the house, and tried to provoke an armed standoff with police. I do not remember all the details at this point other than that the police waited him out and the man eventually killed himself.

However, before killing himself, the man set lots of traps in the house to kill or severely injure anyone who entered the house to get him. Those traps had to be disarmed. It was a huge mess, to put it mildly.

The relevant point is that I made the mistake in my article of calling the items in the house “improvised explosive devices.” That was technically true since he had created homemade bombs with a variety of trigger mechanisms, but calling them “improvised explosive devices” rather than “homemade bombs” wrongly implied a connection with the stuff going on in Iraq and Afghanistan at the time. I wouldn't make that mistake today, but back then the phrase was still being used in civilian circles without the connotation it now carries after a decade of dealing with Iraq and Afghanistan.

Let's just say military personnel picked up on my article and the local police had to field lots of questions about whether the technology to manufacture Iraq-style IEDs had migrated from the Middle East over to an American criminal environment. Fortunately for everyone, the problem was a dumb reporter (me) using a poor choice of words, not that gangs and individual renegades had acquired the ability to use IEDs in an American environment.

Our troops dealing with IEDs spend most of their time training to detect and disarm them, not create them. Bombmaking is a skill and it's not necessarily easy. However, in a real SHTF scenario, we can assume that just as happened with leftover or cast-off military munitions in previous wars, the technology to make IEDs will start being used by local non-military forces, sometimes for defensive purposes to protect property, but unfortunately sometimes for very different purposes.

132 posted on 10/02/2012 12:06:18 PM PDT by darrellmaurina
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To: Kartographer

Got all that covered nicely.


133 posted on 10/02/2012 12:24:15 PM PDT by CodeToad (Padme: "So this is how liberty dies... with thunderous applause.")
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To: SolidRedState

Where my parents live they always had a “burn pile” before the liberals took over the county. I expect to have one where I live if SHTF.


134 posted on 10/02/2012 12:26:41 PM PDT by CodeToad (Padme: "So this is how liberty dies... with thunderous applause.")
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