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I am not Trayvon MArtin
Truth About Bills ^ | 04/27/2012 | Mark Mayberry

Posted on 04/27/2012 1:49:34 PM PDT by Mark Mayberry

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To: DuncanWaring

Now you are suggesting that Zimmerman’s head was being pounded in rain soaked dirt. Zimmerman told the LEO that Martin was pounding his head on the pavement. Yikes, massive disconnect.Trayvon did not have the gun, Why does Zimmerman get due process?


81 posted on 04/28/2012 1:01:45 PM PDT by BLOC77 (bloc07)
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To: BLOC77

So you’re only allowed to defend yourself if your head is being banged on the sidewalk, whereas if it’s being banged against a water sprinkler you have to lay there and take it?


82 posted on 04/28/2012 1:02:32 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: BLOC77

Possibly Zimmerman’s situational awareness was a little weak, and it only felt like his head was pounding the sidewalk.

How’s this work again? Head pounded on sidewalk, you can’t defend yourself because you’re in a coma, head pounded in the turf, you can’t defend yourself because your death will not be instantaneous?

You really are embarrasing yourself.


83 posted on 04/28/2012 1:06:15 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: BLOC77

If the patient is lucid and conscious they can sign a waver of transport and EMT’s have to let them go that is their right to elect non transport. You are wrong about the cuts , pavement splits skulls just like that I have seen it dozens of times. I personalty have 2 fine lines across the back of my head from a meeting with a curb that do not grow hair to this day didn’t lose a whole lot of blood sure hurt like hell though. That time I suffered no lasting trauma only a very sore head for a few days. I have had a stage 2 concussion once from getting in an MMA ring above my weight class wow that was stupid. It is night and day different, tunnel vision, uncontrollable vomiting ect.


84 posted on 04/28/2012 1:07:31 PM PDT by JD_UTDallas ("Veni Vidi Vici")
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To: BLOC77
Why does Zimmerman get due process?

Why shouldn't he get due process?

Surely you're not suggesting he should be summarily executed because he's clearly a deranged murderer, are you?

Trayvon did not have the gun, ...

A person is not allowed to shoot an assailant who is bigger and/or stronger than them if the assailant does not have a gun?

85 posted on 04/28/2012 1:09:56 PM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: BLOC77
"Why does Zimmerman get due process?"

Due process is a constitutional right and a sole function of the courts, as well as the right to habeas corpus which is why Zimmerman under our constitutional law must be allowed to post bail. You do not apparently understand what due process is, zimmerman is getting due process as is Martin the fact that this is going to trial IS due process for Martin his right are being protected should Zimmerman via the evidence be found guilty of homicide then Martin's right to due process has be served. If because of the facts Zimmeran is no billed then again due process has been served as Zimmermans legal rights have been upheld to a speedy trial judged by his peers based on the principle that he is INOCENT until proven guilty the prosecution must prove that he intended malicious harm to Martin and killed him in such a state of mind. Zimmerman is innocent and acted in self defence until such time as the prosecution has proved beyond a reasonable doubt otherwise and then the jury of Zimmermans peers must decide if there is no longer a reasonable doubt that Zimmerman ment to maliciously kill Martin and acted on such intent. Only then is Zimmerman guilty, if you do not like that tuff sh1t that is constitutional laws we live in liberty under. If you disagree with the above then I sugest the DU is a site you should be whining too.

86 posted on 04/28/2012 1:18:03 PM PDT by JD_UTDallas ("Veni Vidi Vici")
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To: DuncanWaring; All

If only Trayvon had been white and Zimmerman had been black...and it were racist whites across the country calling for the judge’s head and making death threats sgainst a black watch captain who had defended himself against a white assailant...then we wouldn’t HAVE these problems...sarc


87 posted on 04/28/2012 1:21:10 PM PDT by AnTiw1
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To: All

grrr sorry fat fingers and no spell check *innocent, *suggest :)


88 posted on 04/28/2012 1:25:20 PM PDT by JD_UTDallas ("Veni Vidi Vici")
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To: DuncanWaring

Funny, becuase I used the same argument that was used against Martin. I heard many times that Trayvon should have called 911 if he felt threatened by Zimmerman. Check out all the threads posted at this link.


89 posted on 04/28/2012 1:35:23 PM PDT by BLOC77 (bloc07)
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To: BLOC77

See if you can find anyone except for Team Crump claiming the investigators asked for an arrest. Good luck.

The following is sourced, almost 3 weeks after investigating:

Investigator Chris Serino of Sanford police said Friday the agency has worked closely with prosecutors, and have not arrested Zimmerman because prosecutors have consistently told them they do not have enough evidence to win a manslaughter conviction.

That’s because Zimmerman says he was defending himself, something he’s allowed to do under Florida law.

The best account of what happened came from Zimmerman, Serino said. Other witnesses who saw or heard parts of what happened corroborate his version of events, the investigator said.

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2012-03-17/news/os-trayvon-martin-shooting-911-call-20120316_1_deadly-shooting-shot-man-reports


90 posted on 04/28/2012 1:50:23 PM PDT by ironman
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To: wtc911
Well, there's one sure way to end the squabble --- provide a link to the witness who states that he saw TH follow and attack Zimmerman and we can all agree...

If you have been following this crap on FR since it started you would already know about the witnesses and wouldn't need a link. Barring that all you have to do is google and get the full transcripts, the cops(arresting cops)statements and the witness statements.

The reason he wasn't arrested the night of the shooting is because all the evidence was overwhelmingly in favor of self defense. It was over a month later that the race baiters started to make a stink over it and had the MSM release edited tapes and false statements, not to mention edited video of GZ's head wounds and try to pretend GZ confronted TM and shot him out of hand.

If you haven't been keeping up or can't be bothered to do research on your own and find out the truth, that's your frickin' fault and not up to me to correct.

91 posted on 04/28/2012 1:51:41 PM PDT by calex59
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To: BLOC77
Get me on the ground (not likely) and proceed to pound my head etc, and there's a good chance you'll die as result.

I am Zimmerman.

92 posted on 04/28/2012 1:56:25 PM PDT by tomkat (para bellum)
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To: BLOC77

You are asking a valid question and one the prosecution would have done well to check out given the evidence now on record.
Keep an open mind and take 51 minutes to watch the bond hearing http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hw0Shw075mo


93 posted on 04/28/2012 1:58:06 PM PDT by Grand
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To: ironman

two shots? The recording I heard only had one shot and certainly no one “begging for their life” not only that but it has been reported that the weapon malfunctioned and stove piped the spent shell casing, so unless Zimmerman cleared the weapon and shot again I want to hear this “other tape”. These recording better be official police record recordings we all know how well the media did in doctoring the prior call to suit their agenda.


94 posted on 04/28/2012 2:03:11 PM PDT by JD_UTDallas ("Veni Vidi Vici")
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To: BLOC77

It’s been widely reported GZ did decline transport.


95 posted on 04/28/2012 2:03:34 PM PDT by ironman
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To: JD_UTDallas

The “two shots” and “begging for life” storylines are more examples of the false narrative pushed by Team Crump/Skittles that have imploded.


96 posted on 04/28/2012 2:10:07 PM PDT by ironman
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To: ironman

Thought so 8 other calls, well then release them from the official police web site in unaltered unenhanced form as AAC uncompressed wav and .RAW formats. I figured it was just more team thugish ruggish lies


97 posted on 04/28/2012 2:17:48 PM PDT by JD_UTDallas ("Veni Vidi Vici")
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To: calex59
Ah, the old - "If you're too lazy to do your own research then I'm not going to post the link" dodge. Freepers use that all the time when they post "facts" without any proof.

Here's what we all know that it means...you don't have a link to the witness that you state saw martin follow and attack zimmerman - because there is none.....but, as I just said, we knew that...

98 posted on 04/28/2012 2:25:11 PM PDT by wtc911 (Amigo - you've been had.)
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To: Mr. K
not when you are on your back fighting for your life

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Or when an armed stranger follows you at night...

99 posted on 04/28/2012 2:26:41 PM PDT by wtc911 (Amigo - you've been had.)
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To: BLOC77

I have read through this entire thread before choosing to comment. With that I have come to the conclusion you are an Al Sharpton wannabe and don’t give a rat’s rearen about what actually happened.


100 posted on 04/28/2012 3:41:41 PM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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