Posted on 04/27/2012 1:49:34 PM PDT by Mark Mayberry
The picture is featured above and is also goes on to state that it was a meeting held by the NAACP on my college campus on April 4th. Now this flyer got me thinking as I stood in line to return my books and if you have never returned books on the last day of the semester, let me tell you, I had a lot of time to think.
I decided that even though most people want to believe otherwise, most of us are not Trayvon Martin at all. As a matter of fact, I am nothing like Trayvon nor would I want to be. It leads me to ponder this question, what does it say about America that so many people think they want to be like Trayvon Martin?
My parents were fairly strict on me as a child and although I hated it when I was younger, I now understand why they were and it is driven home a little more every time I see a cautionary tale such as this. I was never in trouble outside of the normal realms of being a bored teenager. For that reason I never found myself in a strange neighborhood after dark being pursued by a member of the neighborhood watch. I would have never dreamed of bringing drugs or stolen property to school mostly because I was raised with a strict code of decency and in my community we were all good people who didn’t take part in such things. Also the fact that even at the age of seventeen I am fairly sure my father would not have been opposed to snatching me up for such deeds didn’t hurt as a deterrent.
This story involved my parents quite a bit and I didn’t even realize it until I started to frame out the article. Much of the things that have been unearthed about Trayvon Martim since his death are a result of absent parenting in my opinion. My father always instilled in me to respect everyone but most of all women. For that reason I would never issue public Internet statements through various social media sites using disparaging and misogynistic terms. I was raised in an atmosphere where that was not permitted and if you broke that rule there was a consequence.
From the time I was young my parents both taught me that there was something to be said for hard work and honest living. My parents, both of whom are successful in their respective fields of employment were great role models to support their claims. Because of that influence and example I am now on my way to being a successful person in my chosen field and never once have I thought it would be cool to dress in baggy jeans with a hood covering my face. Not to say that I don’t own any hoodies but the hood is more of a useless addition to the sweatshirt and not to be worn. I am a firm believer that how you dress sways people’s initial opinion. I try to dress my best when I am around town and meeting people so I am taken seriously in public. For the same reason that I assume the guy wearing a badge is a police officer, I also assume the guy walking around with his pants falling down and wearing an oversized hoodie is a criminal. If you don’t want to be known as a criminal then don’t wear the uniform.
I have no middle finger pictures online nor do I own any gold teeth and although I do have one tattoo it is covered a majority of the time and no one is any the wiser. The point I am trying to make here is that Trayvon went to great lengths to convince people that he was a thug, living the lifestyle of a ghetto super star and there are consequences to this decision.
If I had to choose, I would say that I am George Zimmerman. George Zimmerman is a devoted husband who works diligently and does volunteer work with disadvantaged people and at risk youth. He also volunteered in his neighborhood and most people only have good things to say about him. Zimmerman has goals and career dreams that he hopes to attain much as I do and because of that I can understand the hard work that goes into pursuing a dream.
Much like Zimmerman I volunteer in my community and do what I can to help out. Until I moved to Tennessee for school I was a volunteer firefighter and still take part in many activities to help out those less fortunate.
Also I am a concealed weapons permit holder and this is the reason that this case was originally of particular interest to me. It wasn’t until later when Zimmerman was crucified in the media with lies and omissions that I took up the cause. (Check out my story on the media bias in the Trayvon Martin case.) Anyone who carries a gun (legally) understands the responsibility and the risk you take in defending your own life. Because of this I know that unless some new unforeseen evidence surfaces, Zimmerman didn’t shoot Martin on a whim or for kicks, as some would have you to believe.
So I will ask again in closing, are you really Trayvon Martin? Do you want your kids to be Trayvon Martin? I for one, try everyday not be Trayvon Martin and to live my life as a productive member of society and a point of pride for my parents not a point of failure.
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So, the basis of your screed is that Martin is dead because of his facebook page...the fact that a stranger with a gun was following him at night had nothing to do with it...interesting.
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Followed at night by a stranger with a gun, who wouldn't fight for his life?
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Well, there's one sure way to end the squabble --- provide a link to the witness who states that he saw TH follow and attack Zimmerman and we can all agree...
I am continung to reply becuase I feel so strongly about this. There was no ballistic evidence given at the the bail hearing. Where are you getting your information? Where is your evidence that his head injury was caused by being slammed into a concrete pavement? There are NO medical records to support your statement. If you were truly a boxer,(no offense meant), the issue involving your situation is called a “closed brain injury or trauma.” this is quite different from from having your head slammed into a concrete pavement. Closed brain injuries are totally different, as you point out. This is why boxers and football players can suffer an injury and still remain upright and show no damage for varying lengths of time. These are tougher to diagnose and go undetected for years, although the damage is significant. This is why brain injuries are becoming an issue in the NFL and other contact sports. I continue to believe Zimmerman was the one who was angry that night. I have searched for links for the information about the ballistics you have cited, I would be interested in reading it. Could you please post a link? Thank you.
Maybe he will in court.
Why doesn’t Zimmerman’s history of violence towards LEO and women bother anyone on this thread?
Where's his convictions? He's not convicted, so any 'history' is conjecture at best, or bull$hit at worst.
Why doesn’t Zimmerman’s sketchy work history bother anyone?
Objection. Irrelevant. Sustained.
Why doesn’t it bother anyone that Zimmerman failed a psych. eval. and was turned down for the police academy?
Objection. Irrelevant. Sustained.
Why the “blind faith” is accepting Zimmermans version of events as gospel?
I'm waiting for the trial.
At the bail hearing, the lead prosecutor asked Zimmerman why he gave three different accounts of the events that night, why doesn’t that disturb you?
If an account changes by one word, it's a "different account." After hours and hours of questioning, that happens with tired people.
Why does the fact that the two lead homicide detectives did not blelieve Zimmerman’s account of what happened that night bother anyone?
At that time, there was no probable cause for an arrest. That's what matters.
You are absolutely correct, I am not allowed to dx. And I would never attempt to dx. And you are correct, no MD, (I am not) would dx on the basis of a photo. All I am saying is where is the medical documentation of severe head and facial trauma? I was simply giving my opinion of what I saw in the photo that was released. I did not see significant injury to the head. Agree or disagree that is your right. Let the justice system work.
I don’t watch Law and Order and I don’t make things up.
Okay, I hear you. You also have to accept that Martin’s history is also irrelevant. So now we have a kid with no gun and an adult with a gun. With no background being admitted guess what we end up with? One dead kid.
YOU ARE LISTEING TO THE LAMESTREAM WHORENALISTS
He was involved with an altercation with LEO who did not identify themselves as LEO and who he felt were abusing a citizen. I have SEEN LEO in action more than once where I wanted to step in and tell them to knock it off...
And as for his ex girlfriend? He had a restraining order against her too- so it is he-said, she-said. As a victim of false allegations myself (THANK GOD I WAS IN MY ATTORNEY'S OFFICE TALKING ON THE PHONE TO THE JUDGE RE; COURT DATE WHEN SHE CLAIMED IT HAPPEND) I know how these are often exaggerated.
You have no PROOF Zimmerman was angry it is your feeling and as such irrelevant. I heard the call too he did not sound angry at all he sounded uneasy if anything but see now two people have heard the same sounds and have different feelings this is why it is irrelevant you can no more PROVE that he was angry more than I can PROVE he was uneasy.
The police have the gun in custody and "leaked" that the single round fired brass did not eject. Why leak that well again this is only caused by failure to cycle the slide since the round went off at full power obviously it killed Martin the only plausible way to keep a slide from reaching full rear is for a hand to be holding the slide if an object is behind the slide such as well Zimmarmans chest he would have a very nasty impact wound and bloody lesions as the slide rail metal cuts surely in those situations. A slide comes back with great force and speed. Many a time have I seen a novice shooter leave a part of their hand behind an autoloaders slide only to have a finger broken or worse a huge grove cut across the palm. Even with a palm cut or broken finger the slide still runs full cycle only a firm hand grip on top of a slide will stop it from full cycle. So much so that in the MP academy they teach you to grab the opponents gun if pointed at you in arms reach by the slide thus ensuring only one round can go off. No there was a hand on top of the slide since Zimmerman had no such chest injury. Again in the trial the M.E. better have done GSR tests on Martins hands I would again bet 100 bucks that the palm of his hand or hands both have GSR on them he was trying to take zimmerman's gun away when he was shot bet on that coming out in trial. As for forensics bullet path ballistics analysis that too will come out in the trial none law enforcement affiliated people will have to wait until the trial. I should not have commented on the path of the bullet that was discussed in private amongst law enforcement and was leaked as well on purpose I am sure of that. The little public facts that have been released via images, voice recordings and reports show that Zimmerman was assaulted that is confirmed by the LEO on scene reports go read them they are in the public domain as pdf files, that document his defencsive injuries backed up by images and public releases that his nose was broken he ELECTED not to take transport to the hospital but did see medial attention on his own those records will come to trial as well. He clearly states on record that he streamed for help and no one came, that is backed up by the voice recording of someone screaming for help computer voice analysis will prove it was Zimmerman. He was arrested questioned that is also in the documentation and most assuredly photographed in detail from all angles these images are being held for trial for sure bank on them being defence evidence number one. You are baiting the question yet again and as such this discussion is over I will not discuss your opinions as that would be foolish the facts are coming more will be "leaked" and it is going to burn the image of little skittles boy and set back the race baiters decades in credibility. The reason facts are being leaked is these fools took a cold race war and turned it warm then now see that they got the facts wrong and are back peddling to save face expect more leaks to gradually defuse the F@ck up the media and race baiters et al. made.
The undercover officer stated on the arrest warrant that he identified himself as a undercover officer and Zimmerman replied,”that doesn’t matter” and shoved him again. Why didn’t he call 911 if he feared his life and the life of his friend was in danger? As to the restraining order, he rushed down and obtained one after his girlfriend had filed a complaint. This is not uncommon, I see a manipulative man who knows how to work the system. Wow, for a totally “clean” guy he’s had more interactions with the police and court system then most law abiding citizens.
I didn’t say it was evidence he punched a bus driver; I said it was evidence Sweet Widdle Twayvon was quite happy to have people believing he punched a bus driver.
As to the “head slammed on the sidewalk” story, I’m a little leery of that; its more likely Zimmerman’s head was being pounded into the rain-softened dirt.
The evidence available at this time supports the scenario that Sweet Widdle Twayvon had Zimmerman on his back, sitting on him and pounding him. If in fact that was what was happening, Sweet Widdle Twayvon had forfeited all rights to Due Process, and Zimmerman was fully within his legal, moral and ethical rights to defend himself with deadly force.
Apparently you've not heard that home-invaders have taken to wearing windbreakers labeled "POLICE" and announcing themselves as such.
Why didn’t he call 911 if he feared his life and the life of his friend was in danger?
Because when seconds count, the police are just minutes away.
Oh really who the hell are you to decide what most law abiding citizens are. We have a right to self defence and that does not include having to call 911 if we fear anything if someone endangers my life the cops can come collect the body. You sound like a troll who is better suited for the DU not liberty loving citizens such as us Freepers go peddle your sludge somewhere else.
Seconded.
Again, all I am asking to see is the evidence, interestingly enough, where you see a head being banged against the curb, I see two minor cuts suggesting being pushed against a water sprinkler. If Zimmerman’s head was smashed against against a curb, again you would see significant damage. not two fine lined cuts. I want to hear from the EMT’s, BTW, why wasn’t he transportted to the nearest trauma center? As a EMT, please give me your answer. EMT’s can not give a complete nuero check or clearance. I still have not heard any answer about this from this thread.
Again, all I am asking to see is the evidence, interestingly enough, where you see a head being banged against the curb, I see two minor cuts suggesting being pushed against a water sprinkler. If Zimmerman’s head was smashed against against a curb, again you would see significant damage. not two fine lined cuts. I want to hear from the EMT’s, BTW, why wasn’t he transportted to the nearest trauma center? As a EMT, please give me your answer. EMT’s can not give a complete nuero check or clearance. I still have not heard any answer about this from this thread.
I also would like to point out that some poeple have questioned well if TM was on top pf GZ when he was shot GZ should be covered in blood. Again people talking out their collective asses who do not know sh1t about crime investigations. TM was wearing at least 2 layers of heavy cloths including a baggy hoody which would not have been in-contact with his chest when the shot went off as gravity would have pulled the baggy cloth down towards the ground. a 9mm entry wound is very small and the back spatter of blood from that wound would have been small and completely caught inside that baggy hoody the only place for it to have sprayed out was a small 9mm hole in the front. having been shot in the chest the instinctive thing that all humans do is put both hands to the wound this explains why he was face down and his hands were in the front under him that is commonly what you find when a person is shot from the front and falls forward in death. GZ shot him and TM grabed his chest like all humans do and fell over to the side on this face where the responding officers found him DOS like that. One should note the police report it lists SIX adult witnesses man this is going to be a great trial.
‘due process’ only comes into play after afterwards when you have arrested and you are trying a person in a court of law
not when you are on your back fighting for your life
Also, if Sweet Widdle Twayvon was positioned such that his skin had shifted relative to the rest of his body when shot, after being shot it would return to the normal resting position, preventing bleeding from the wound.
I know a guy who had that happen to a deer he shot; deer kept going, didn’t leave a blood trail. His son just happened to see it dead across the street on his way home from school (fortunately, still fresh enough to be edible).
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