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The Real Reason Why Obama’s Birth Certificate Is Probably Fake
TrueblueNZ ^ | 04/28/11 | Redbaiter

Posted on 04/28/2011 6:26:54 AM PDT by wistful

Donald Trump did it. Unfazed by the lies of Obama’s mainstream media troops, he stuck to his guns and exposed the big lie that Obama had produced his birth certificate. This lie was propogated by almost every media personality for example Bill O’Reilly, who stated he had seen the birth certificate, and George Stephanopoulos, who only a few days ago waved the COLB in Michelle Bachmann’s face and intimidated her into agreeing that it was THE CERTIFICATE.

The claim that Obama had produced his certificate was a lie. Here’s the rub though. Obama knew it was a lie, because, if what we are being told now is true, he knew the Long Form was on file in Hawaii. He knew it was on file, but all this time, has remained quiet about that fact, and allowed everyone backing him to maintain the fiction that the COLB was the real Birth Certificate.

Press Secretary Robert Gibbs many times stood before a sniggering incompetent and partisan White House Press Gallery and stated the COLB was the Birth certificate. The White House Press Secretary lied outright to the White House Press Corp. And even now, after this lie has been starkly exposed the Press Corp remain mute on one of the biggest hoaxes ever performed upon the American people.

For two years or more they all tried to pass off the COLB as the real birth certificate. Gibbs lied. The Democrats lied. Most of the mainstream media lied.

Obama never came out and told the truth. “Yes, the claim my critics are making that the COLB is not the real certificate is true. There is a long form and it is on file in Hawaii.” He never said this. He allowed the fiction to stand.

Now, anyone out there who claims this Long Form Certificate is the real thing, you tell me why the fiction that the COLB was a birth certificate was maintained for so long.

It was only recently that Hawaii Health Director Dr. Chiyome Fukino clarified her statements enough to state unmistakeably that there was a Long Form Birth certificate on file. All previous statements had been contradictory, vague and evasive and did not mention a Long Form Certificate. She used “original vital records” and other such unclear terms. When everyone was hollering about the Long Form Certificate, she never once used this term. Until only a few days before Obama produced the document.

Sorry people. I did not come down in the last shower. This circumstance stinks to high heaven. I do not believe this fabricated and fictional artifice. I will await further forensic evidence before making my mind up fully on this issue, but I’m far from convinced and I don’t see how anyone with any intelligence could be. Trust but verify some people are saying. Maybe, frankly I find it hard to trust anyone who strongly supported a fiction for two years or more with lawyers and rhetoric and propaganda, and let an honourable American soldier go to jail, when it all could have been put to rest so easily.


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KEYWORDS: birth; certificate; forgery; hopespringseternal; naturalborncitizen; obama
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To: bvw

The real point to this exercise is that there is no way that anyone who looks at the complete circumstance of the Long Form’s sudden discovery and appearance cannot be skeptical.

Its just too much to believe. Its contrived and manipulated.

The document must undergo proper forensic testing to absolve the office of the President from suspicion of fraud.


21 posted on 04/28/2011 6:41:48 AM PDT by wistful
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To: spacejunkie01

Where was that said? Was it in court transcript?


22 posted on 04/28/2011 6:42:11 AM PDT by Mr. K (this administration is WEARING OUT MY CAPSLOCK KEY~!! [Palin/Bachman 2012])
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To: frogjerk

So you think ALL those court cases over the past 2 years odumbo was represented PRO BONO?? The plaintiffs attorneys have cumulatively spent millions...why do you think odumdo DIDN’T to represent himself and block this??


23 posted on 04/28/2011 6:44:32 AM PDT by spacejunkie01
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To: silverleaf

You make a good point- This should be tested.

Is Obama willing to submit this in court as his real BC? A forensic examiner for the opponent would have a field day.

There is a GREAT YouTube video out last night were a guy opens the doc in Adobe Ilustrator and picks up the different layers and moves them around. The whole ID block removes. Signatures, dates, all move. Impossible to do for a scanned document.


24 posted on 04/28/2011 6:45:08 AM PDT by Mr. K (this administration is WEARING OUT MY CAPSLOCK KEY~!! [Palin/Bachman 2012])
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To: wistful
You initial comments were great too. And you are right:
The document must undergo proper forensic testing to absolve the office of the President from suspicion of fraud.
You make perfect sense, of course. The original records should be reviewed by reputable forensic examiners, included those representing folks who have challenged Obama's legitimacy. That would raise the evidence to legal-process forensic standards.
25 posted on 04/28/2011 6:46:23 AM PDT by bvw
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To: mel
I agree i see that post a 100 times a day and people just keep repeating it. bizarre.

And it is an unnecessary claim at that. The delay alone is sufficient to prove there is something not right here.

26 posted on 04/28/2011 6:47:10 AM PDT by frogjerk (I believe in unicorns, fairies and pro-life Democrats.)
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To: wistful

Yeppers! 0bama outed himself, his staff and the press as bald-faced liars.


27 posted on 04/28/2011 6:47:42 AM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/15/08 and why?)
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To: Mr. K

One would think it’s in a transcript somewhere as it was definitely the reason given in one of the court cases.


28 posted on 04/28/2011 6:48:21 AM PDT by spacejunkie01
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To: cartan

Those are two pretty good arguments. I would respond thus-

1) the president was in a jam. The pressure was getting too much even for him to bear. Remember that some flunky lied to protect John Edwards out of misguided loyalty. Its not inconceivable that some gang that included Obama would try this and then work to tough it out. They might see this as a better option than keeping the mystery rolling.

2) Maybe. Maybe not.


29 posted on 04/28/2011 6:48:25 AM PDT by wistful
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To: wistful

Oh buh-ru-ther.

Do we need proof of the moon landing as well? Only Neil Armstrong and 2 others was there — if they were paid off then all bets are off!


30 posted on 04/28/2011 6:50:17 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (Liberalism is a philosophy of sniveling brats. /P. J. O'Rourke, 1991)
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To: wistful

Every individual who has completed one day of boot camp in the Service has more integrity in their little finger than all the members of the federal government, Hawaiian government and the msm. There’s a commercial for a cell phone that’s also a computer. The guy is trying to get on an airplane and a TSA supervisors says, “Well which is it, sir? A cell phone or a computer.” So which is it o, a certificate or a certification?


31 posted on 04/28/2011 6:50:42 AM PDT by Portcall24
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To: cartan

“Ann Dunham’s signature. Apparently, she forgot to put her first name there, and then added it in parentheses, as an afterthought.”

Honestly, how many times have you signed your name and “forgot” to put your first name in there? Seems weird doesn’t it?


32 posted on 04/28/2011 6:50:42 AM PDT by walkingdead (It's easy, you just don't lead 'em as much....)
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To: bvw

BO and his minions are very scary. That they would put out this fake (I believe) is just downright evil. What is he hiding? I think this will galvanize people more than ever to vote him out as this is the only way to get this crooked bunch out. It makes us feel powerless and BO more like an dictator that has total control of the people.


33 posted on 04/28/2011 6:51:44 AM PDT by dandiegirl
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To: wistful

So I guess now they will call out the handyman and have him chisel off the plaque on the pillar to the entrance of Coast Provincial Hospital in Mombasa that states Barack Hussein Obama was born here.

I am truly amazed at Obamas audacity to even think he can get away with this busted flush of a poker bluff of this fabricated imagery of a document.

And even more so the blindness of America to the Constitutional requirement to be President, in essence, Natural Born Citizen. Obama is divided in his loyalty by NOT having a parent of American citizenship.


34 posted on 04/28/2011 6:54:54 AM PDT by Eye of Unk (Communism is a diease, a global failure and endorses Barack Hussein Obama.)
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To: TexasCajun

The plan was turn the BC controversy around on TheDonald and demand he now release his tax returns.

And now Joe Gibbs, Obamah’s righ-hand man, has done exactly that.

And you can bet the Obamah’s Pom-Pom media will be demanding Trump do exactly that, regardless of how many experts delcare the COLB-II a fake.
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Gibbs has got to learn to keep his mouth shut. All Trump has to do is call the document a “fraud” and point out all the dependencies, slowly, a few every day. Drip, Drip, Drip. Listen, to me, the “Dude” wants this to go away, FAST. He’s loosing more independents. I don’t care for Trump, but this is better than going to the Carnival, and riding the elephants!!!


35 posted on 04/28/2011 6:54:54 AM PDT by DeadFurrow (Your rights end where mine begins.)
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To: cartan
Forging such a document would be a felony.

A .jpeg is not actually a document. It hasn't been submitted in a legal venue as a legal document for any legal purpose. What is there to make a charge of fraud out of?

36 posted on 04/28/2011 6:55:35 AM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/15/08 and why?)
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To: wistful

It is interesting to note that the first fake COLB (circa 2008) came replete with an endorsement of its authenticity from FactCheck.org.I wonder if a similar stamp of approval is forthcoming for this latest rendition?


37 posted on 04/28/2011 6:56:43 AM PDT by TommyTrojan
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To: bvw
The authority is not the image, it is the signed stamp of the registrar, Alvin T. Onaka, Ph.D. He is the only one who has actually seen or who is allowed to see the purported original, according to the wonderful cover story of a plan they concocted.


38 posted on 04/28/2011 6:57:09 AM PDT by Errant
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To: Mr. K
Obama Birth Certificate Scam? 2011-04-27

You mean that. It's devastating.


39 posted on 04/28/2011 6:58:20 AM PDT by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/15/08 and why?)
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To: wistful

The original had to be forged because it was stamped “VOID” after the Soetoro adoption was finalized. Its fake but accurate on a need to know basis. After that, the Soetoro COLB was stamped “VOID” when BO Sr returned to Hawaii in 1971 to object to the Soetoro adoption. Technically, Obama’s COLB with a “Date filed” and not accepted is his BC because it is the only vital record for Obama that hasn’t been voided by court order.


40 posted on 04/28/2011 6:58:37 AM PDT by SvenMagnussen (BHO II naturalized as U.S. Citizen after becoming an Indonesian National)
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