Posted on 04/21/2014 3:11:56 PM PDT by nickcarraway
Love it. Great show thus far.
“Turn,” that is. Really, really good.
agreed
BS. She said “No” then she kissed him on the mouth. Not that anything in this fiction matters. Fiction + friction = entertainment.
Some great British actors on that show portraying themselves as both villain and patriot in the American revolution but in a sense they were all British then.
Samuel Roukin is so good as Captain John Graves Simcoe that I want to end him myself.
Angus MacFadyen is awesome as Robert Rogers. A clear villain but one awesome role. The real Robert Rogers was a fascinating historical figure in his own right.
Jamie Bell is good as Abraham Woodhull. Loyalist slowly being driven to turning patriot spy by British abuses.
The fact that she and her brother have been committing incest for years, and have children together, kind of blunts any outrage I might feel for there having been rape involved in the encounter.
“Turn” is a good show! We’ve enjoyed it so far!
You are exactly right. The cable shows are going all out on all types of sex. Thrones showed incest before. Cable shows homo sex (guy on guy) more and more. They are trying to desensitize the viewers. In a decade, it will be all out sex, in any way, all the time.
I have read the series by George R. R. Martin. There are many misconceptions held by those who haven’t read it.
Some thoughts:
1) Margaret Whomever, in her article which kicked this discussion off, needs to GET OVER the fact that a rape was shown on TV. Rape, like sh1t, happens. Rape happens. In medieval times, it happened a lot.
2) I was offended by the sodomy in that same episode, the same sodomy that wasn’t even mentioned by the liberals, who only saw the heterosexual (though incestuous) rape.
3) Much of the show depicts (like the book) the ugly and brutal nature of life in that fictional (but historically-themed) place and time. Again, get over it.
4) A CALLOUT TO HBO: Sick. You are sick. You are perverting GRRM’s books. Twisting them around, adding and subtracting from the plot in ways that mere editing would entitle you. Best example: One might think that Game of Thrones was a series of novels depicting, 40% of the time, acts of homosexuality. It is not. HBO keeps introducing the disgusting practice.
5) For those of you who have not read it, because one thing or another has turned you against it: PLEASE, please ignore what you have been told, or seen on TV on the HBO perverted version, and read the series for yourself. It’s equal to JRR Tolkien. (I’ve never held any fantasy anywhere near to equality to JRRT. I’m 53, so I’ve read a fair amount of fantasy authors.)
Please don’t bash the books based on a negative impression of HBO’s (Hollyweird’s) twisted version of the series. You’re only cheating yourself out of reading some very good stuff.
Few books are worthy of my time as a re-read.
Only those books that have an intricate plot, complex characters, and a sense that—perhaps?—I have missed something can cause me to pick them up again. This would be one such series.
As far as the pleasure of reading it, I’d give JRR Tolkien the nod for us beautiful use of the English language, as well as the sense of a Christian spirit throughout his work, although he denied it, I think it flowed from him quite unconsciously.
Martin used short, direct sentences. It’s not as “beautiful” as JRRT’s, but paints powerful images, and each short sentences propels the characters forward. It’s wonderful in a different sense than JRRT. Alas, there’s no sense of God in his work, but it’s not anti-Christian, either: It’s sort of...pre-Christian? Pagan, in a fantasy sense. As if Christianity may one day come and take root, but it hasn’t just yet.
I wouldn’t regard GRRM’s work in the same light as Tolkien’s , at least, not in that regard.
But do read it, you will not be disappointed. The books pick up in a sense of urgency, they GET BETTER, and the first one should tell you there more goodness to come.
Yes, I’m an apologist for the series. I love it that much.
Just give it a chance. ;) If I can convince just one person to read it, I will have done my Good Deed and spread some joy.
You know I loved Tolkien. Don’t doubt it. I chose my screen name to honor him.
Sauron
Psalms 101:3 I will set no wicked thing before mine eyes; I hate the work of them that turn aside; it shall not cleave to me.
You can show graphic torture and murder scenes by the train car load, but sexual assault is over the top. Got it.
WHAT, is Game of Thrones?
I agree, GRRM’s work, although admittedly not suitable for everyone, is IMO a masterpiece. The TV show is but a shadow of the books but retains enough of the original work to nevertheless be an excellent show.
The character Coster-Waldau plays, Jaime, kicks off the whole series and thus the resulting war that has made up most of it by throwing a young boy off the top of a tower after he accidently witnesses Cersei and Jaime in illicit conjugal union; Jaime goes on to kill his own devoted cousin while imprisoned as a way to attempt an escape; and this is what has people outraged?
Apparently some freepers. There is no justification whatsoever for subscribing to and thereby supporting all the various cable channels when worthwhile content can be downloaded or rented.
We were hoping Joffery’s body would fall on top of them.
But you’re going to miss the dragon mother take over her city without using her dragons
saw 20 minutes of one episode and shut it off. I don’t want to watch soft-core porn. The story sounds fantastic, but it’s too much
Solid post. Well done. It will mostly go ignored here though...
I've not seen any of this season, but here is the thesis of the whole series in a nutshell:
Evil and evil people prevail because good people are not willing to do what is necessary to defeat evil.
Good people will not usually lie, cheat, steal, send out spies, etc., etc., to defeat evil.
Good people will not even unite in their efforts to defeat evil. Each nice person has their own kinder, gentler way to appease and appeal to the sub-human trash that is about to take their life, liberty, family, property, and dignity; and darned if we'll stoop to the level of this sub-human scumbag to keep any of it.
About once a century or so, the evil gets to a level where people have to unite, and get down in the mud to keep civilization alive. We're almost there again.
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