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PIV is always rape, ok?
Radical Wind - blowing through female outerspace ^ | December 15, 2013

Posted on 01/04/2014 3:58:04 AM PST by 2ndDivisionVet

Just to recall a basic fact: Intercourse/PIV is always rape, plain and simple.

This is a developed recap from what I’ve been saying in various comments here and there in the last two years or so. as a radfem I’ve always said PIV is rape and I remember being disappointed to discover that so few radical feminists stated it clearly. How can you possibly see it otherwise? Intercourse is the very means through which men oppress us, from which we are not allowed to escape, yet some instances of or PIV and intercourse may be chosen and free? That makes no sense at all.

First, well intercourse is NEVER sex for women. Only men experience rape as sexual and define it as such. Sex for men is the unilateral penetration of their penis into a woman (or anything else replacing and symbolising the female orifice) whether she thinks she wants it or not – which is the definition of rape: that he will to do it anyway and that he uses her and treats her as a receptacle, in all circumstances – it makes no difference to him experiencing it as sexual. That is, at the very least, men use women as useful objects and instruments for penetration, and women are dehumanised by this act. It is an act of violence.

As FCM pointed out some time ago, intercourse is inherently harmful to women and intentionally so, because it causes pregnancy in women. The purpose of men enforcing intercourse regularly (as in, more than once a month) onto women is because it’s the surest way to cause pregnancy and force childbearing against our will, and thereby gain control over our reproductive powers. There is no way to eliminate the pregnancy risk entirely off PIV and the mitigating and harm-reduction practices such as contraception and abortion are inherently harmful, too. Reproductive harms of PIV range from pregnancy to abortion, having to take invasive, or toxic contraception, giving birth, forced child bearing and rearing and all the complications that go with them which may lead up to severe physical and emotional damage, disability, destitution, illness, or death (See factcheckme.wordpress.com for her work on the reproductive harms of PIV, click on the “intercourse series” page or “PIV” in the search bar). If we compare this to even the crappiest online definition of violence: “behaviour involving physical force intended to hurt, damage, or kill someone or something”. Bingo. It fits: Pregnancy = may hurt, damage or kill. Intercourse = a man using his physical force to penetrate a woman. Intention / purpose of the act of intercourse = to cause pregnancy. PIV is therefore intentional harm / violence. Intentional sexual harm of a man against a woman through penile penetration = RAPE.

If we look at the act in more detail (skip this parag if you can’t take it), PIV is a man mounting on a woman to thrust a large member of himself into her most intimate parts, often forcing her to be entirely naked, banging himself against her with the whole weight of his body and hips, shaking her like he would stuff a corpse, then using her insides as a receptacle for his penile dejection. How is this a normal civilised, respectful way to treat anyone? Sorry for the explicit picture, but this is what it is and it’s absolutely revolting and violating.

The term “f*ck you” is not an insult for nothing, men know why – it’s the worst thing you can do to a human being. It is in itself an extremely physically invasive act, very often painful, generally at the beginning before the pain may be cut off by the genital arousal; causes all sorts of tears, bruises, swelling, discomfort, STDs, vaginal infections, urinary infections, genital warts, HIV and death. Not to forget the additional sado-gynecological interventions/ costs of PIV-maintenance, and all the secondary physical mutiliation and financial costs that go with our duty to make ourselves look decorative for male sexual consumption – such as hair removal, make-up, starvation or forced feeding, torturous limb deforming or cutting up, etc.

The fact intercourse causes so many infections and tears and warts attests to the unnaturalness of intercourse, that it’s not meant to be. The vagina’s primary function isn’t to be penetrated by a penis but to eject a baby for birth. They are two muscle tissues / sphincters pressed against each other to help the baby be pushed out. Penetration of the penis into the vagina is completely unnecessary for conception.

There’s a reason men need to groom us into it, and why this grooming takes so long- because it’s so grossly violating and traumatising that we would otherwise never submit to intercourse. The only reason we may now not feel raped or have the impression we desired or initiated PIV, is because men broke down our barriers very skillfully and progressively from birth, breaking down our natural defences to pain and invasion, our confidence in our own perceptions and sensations of fear and disgust that tell us male sexual invasion is painful, harmful and traumatic.

Through an all-pervasive and powerful male propaganda, they stuff our minds from infancy with the idea that PIV is normal, desirable and erotic, before we can even conceive of it as something horrifying, and make sure we never see any alternative to their lie – or that if we do, we can no longer take in the information, are punished for thinking and saying otherwise. The fact we may not immediately feel raped doesn’t mean it’s not rape, objectively speaking. To give a classic example, many women in prostitution may not identify the act of prostitution as rape, except if the act wasn’t paid for. It doesn’t stop us from saying that all prostitution is rape. We know that our subjective feelings or thoughts may be colonised by men’s perspectives and as radical feminists we don’t let that override and erase the objective reality of violence. (PS -The reason why ONLY the lack of payment is defined as rape is because the offence here isn’t against the prostituted woman but the pimp who was deprived of his income. Rape comes from rapt, which is an old word for theft of woman-as-property.)

Lastly, from a structural point of view, as a class oppressed by men, we are not in any position of freedom to negotiate what men do to us collectively and individually within the heterocage. Men, by whom we are possessed, colonised and held captive, are the sole agents and organisers of PIV. Men dominate us precisely so we can’t opt out of sexual abuse by them; intercourse is the very means through which men subordinate us, the very purpose of their domination, to control human reproduction.


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To: 2ndDivisionVet
...intercourse is inherently harmful to women and intentionally so, because it causes pregnancy in women.

It also causes women, so it can't be all bad. Right?
101 posted on 01/07/2014 10:37:06 AM PST by Sopater (Is it not lawful for me to do what I will with mine own? - Matthew 20:15a)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I think author is a butt-ugly.


102 posted on 01/22/2014 2:18:59 AM PST by cunning_fish
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
“PIV is always rape, ok?”

No, not ok.

103 posted on 01/26/2014 3:55:44 AM PST by Right Wing Assault
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Oh, my. This woman has some severe mental illness problems, doesn't she? She shouldn't be railing at men for the biological urge to have intercourse (which, on rare occasion, leads to babies). She should be irate with Mother Nature for making us this way. For making men big and strong, so that they can bring food to and protect the children that nature insists that they father. For making women smaller and less aggressive, so that nature can compel them into caring for all those children fathered by those big, strong men. Nature does not care what we do with our lives; biologically, the only reason we exist is to ensure the survival of the species.

Well, it is a good thing that insane idiots like this one remove their DNA from the gene pool. Humanity really is better off without those lunatic genes.

104 posted on 01/28/2014 4:38:53 AM PST by exDemMom (Current visual of the hole the US continues to dig itself into: http://www.usdebtclock.org/)
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To: MestaMachine

Actually, Eve wouldn’t be laughing. That would be Lillith doing it.


105 posted on 01/28/2014 5:24:44 AM PST by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; me = independent conservative)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This is just insane ranting. I’m not name calling. I mean it is, literally, the rantings of an insane person. It’s just that instead of screaming it as she walks down a New York street pushing a shopping cart full of her worldly posessions, she’s written it down and gotten it posted on the internet.

But that doesn’t make it any more sane.

What is interesting is that I tend to agree with the first few sentences in a way. That is, to the man it is “violating” the woman’s body. It is a desire he has. And her desire, if it is not rape, is to not just let him, but want him to. It is how God designed us physiologically.

It is only rape when the woman has not given permission but he does it anyway.

But I afford this article the same respect as the afformentioned bag lady.


106 posted on 01/28/2014 5:39:04 AM PST by cuban leaf
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I wonder how she feels about the cowgirl position.


107 posted on 01/28/2014 5:40:47 AM PST by cuban leaf
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To: Ken522

What’s PIV? Professionally Interactive Vectoring?


That is one of the technical flaws in this article. When you use an acronym, the first time you use it you spell it out with the acronym in parentheses following.

E.g. Crazy Feminist Rantings (CFR).


108 posted on 01/28/2014 5:42:12 AM PST by cuban leaf
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I’ll take some nice oppression!


109 posted on 02/04/2014 1:14:42 PM PST by Shimmer1
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Hey, she’s a moderate. There are some feminazis who think tampons are rape. True fact, NSFD (not safe for digestion)

http://www.thedailybeast.com/witw/articles/2013/07/09/how-our-menstruation-fearing-culture-keep-periods-invisible.html


110 posted on 02/07/2014 8:29:33 AM PST by muir_redwoods (When I first read it, " Atlas Shrugged" was fiction)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; GeronL

“PIV stands for Penis In Vagina. No, I’m not kidding.”

Some here might be too young to hear that! :)


111 posted on 03/27/2014 2:39:33 PM PDT by Morgana (Wagglebee please come home we miss you!)
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To: Morgana

More insanity by the hour


112 posted on 03/27/2014 5:01:04 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: ansel12

Look it up. I don’t think Solanas- was a feminist.


113 posted on 07/31/2014 1:59:29 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: William Tell

Sounds like a Zappa lyric.


114 posted on 07/31/2014 6:12:43 AM PDT by jurroppi1 (The only thing you "pass to see what's in it" is a stool sample. h/t MrB)
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To: jurroppi1

“And my name is Bobby Brown....”


115 posted on 07/31/2014 6:13:57 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: cuban leaf

One thing I noticed in the insane rant was that she actually admitted that

abortion harms women.


116 posted on 07/31/2014 6:22:36 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: cuban leaf

Oh, and I really liked your comparison to the insane bag lady writing her thoughts on the internet instead of screaming them randomly at strangers.


117 posted on 07/31/2014 6:23:55 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: nickcarraway

She sure fooled us all then.

Any topic can find some intellectuals that want argue anything, but the descriptions below certainly justify her being called a feminist.

“According to Robert Marmorstein in 1968, “she has dedicated the remainder of her life to the avowed purpose of eliminating every single male from the face of the earth.” Feminist Robin Morgan (later editor of Ms. magazine) demonstrated for Solanas’s release from prison. Ti-Grace Atkinson, the New York chapter president of the National Organization for Women (NOW), described Solanas as “the first outstanding champion of women’s rights” and as “a ‘heroine’ of the feminist movement”, and “smuggled [her manifesto] ... out of the mental hospital where Solanas was confined.” Another NOW member, Florynce Kennedy, called her “one of the most important spokeswomen of the feminist movement.” Norman Mailer called her the “Robespierre of feminism.””

“[Feminist philosopher Avital Ronell] believed that Solanas was ahead of her time, living in a period before feminist and lesbian revolutionaries such as the Guerilla Girls and the Lesbian Avengers. Solanas has also been credited as instigating radical feminism, according to Harding and Victor Bockris feminist revolutionaries supported her, and Catherine Lord wrote that “the feminist movement would not have happened without Valerie Solanas.” Lord believed that the reissuing of the SCUM Manifesto and the disowning of Solanas by “women’s liberation politicos” triggered a wave of radical feminist publications. As women’s liberation activists denied hating men, Vivian Gornick claimed that a year later the same women would change their stories, developing the first wave of radical feminism.”


118 posted on 07/31/2014 10:38:45 AM PDT by ansel12 (LEGAL immigrants, 30 million 1980-2012, continues to remake the nation's electorate for democrats)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Comment from link.......

“Ridickulous! The “all PIV = rape” idea is a phallacy.”

The rest of them are good, too.


119 posted on 08/24/2014 5:17:29 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: ToastedHead

Always wanted to be a member of the most prestigious (and heresofar unestablished) organization WON. Women Opposed to NOW. You want to be the first President??? You would do us proud. Kick the balls right off them femiz.


120 posted on 12/17/2014 12:17:54 PM PST by I_be_tc
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