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Ryan is a good man, but does not redeem the abortionist/homosexualist statist Romney
Aug 11, 2012 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 08/11/2012 4:42:48 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

Except for his unfortunate go along to get along support of TARP, bailouts, stimulus spending and the increased credit limit, etc, Ryan is a pretty good choice. Probably the best choice of the RINOS that were on Romney's short list. I support Ryan for the vice presidency. Wish he were at the top of the ticket, though.

But I still cannot and will not support the grand father of ObamaCare. Romney still loves and brags about his bastard brainchild, RomneyCare, even today when he knows what an anti-liberty socialist POS it is.

And the fact that he advocated that abortion should be safe and legal in America for over three decades of his adult lifetime and even advocated that Roe v Wade should be supported and sustained as settled law precludes any consideration whatsoever by this pro-life Christian for Myth Romney for the presidency.

And the fact that he boasted that he would be better for "gay rights" than Ted Kennedy, and proved it just increases my resistance.

That, and his penchant for gun control, his continuing support for global warming, gays in the scouts, gays in the military, and his record of appointing liberal judges makes it all but impossible for me to support him.

Lastly, we're having a bit of changeover on our moderator staff. At least two moderators resigned this afternoon after I flatly refused to rein in a so-called anti-Mormon "bigot" on FR. Well, if being in opposition to false prophets and false prophecy makes a Christian believer a bigot, then I guess I'm a bigot. I've posted before that I flat do not believe that the Book of Mormon is the true word of God. Nor do I believe that Joseph Smith was a prophet of God. The Christian bible warns us to be weary of false prophets and that I am. Romney being the presumptive Republican nominee does not change that fact.


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Comment #921 Removed by Moderator

To: Syncro

Take it up with Joseph Smith, or God if you ever see him. Romney loves Jesus Christ and acknowledges him as his Lord and Savior, and that’s all you, as a Christian, need to know.


922 posted on 08/12/2012 12:17:03 AM PDT by DRey (Ryan/Cruz 2020)
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To: doug from upland; Jeff Head

Well said, dfu. I don’t think Mormons are trying to annihilate anybody, but radical Islam is. The guy who currently occupies (see what I did there ;o) the White House appears to me to be doing his dead level best to invite them into this country, and to give them a seat at the table. With that comes legitimacy and power that they otherwise wouldn’t have.

“This nation is about to hit the iceberg and sink economically, taking with it the rest of the world. There is a very short window of opportunity to turn the ship around. Obama is neither capable of that nor interested in that. He wants the colonial powers to be destroyed. That really is the dream of his father.”

You are dead on right!


923 posted on 08/12/2012 12:17:07 AM PDT by dixiechick2000 (This hobbit is looking for her pitchfork...God help the GOP if I find it.)
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To: presently no screen name
You do not the heart of man, nor their salvation status with the Lord. Only God knows our hearts and whether each person believes in Christ as Savior, Who alone saves and gives us eternal life, which is not of our own doing, so that none should boast. God's ways are not your ways. Therefore He is able to save completely those who come to God through Him, because He always lives to intercede for them. Each person is unique and God works uniquely, and in His own time, with each person, according to their ability, and according to His own plan within that person's life.

Matthew 7:

1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.
2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
3 And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
4 Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
5 Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.


924 posted on 08/12/2012 12:18:20 AM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: presently no screen name

...and I thank God every day, and His Son Jesus Christ, they it is He who will be my judge, and not folks like yourself who have already judged and comdemned.

To my knowledge, we have never met. You have never seen what I do, heard me pray, or been around myself and my family and observed our faith and love for Christ...and yet you presume to say I cannot serve two masters as if though I seek to do just that. Shame on you.

At the same time, God bless you for your own faith in He that is mighty to save...may He soften your heart towards others who love the Savior and who ought to be your natural and close allies in this fight we face as a nation.

As I said, I will do all in my power to help turn this around, and then as I am bid by the scriptures, I will wait on the arm of the Lord to be revealed..

God’s speed.


925 posted on 08/12/2012 12:20:26 AM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free, never has been, never will be (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: sf4dubya
There is no difference.

So hypothetically, if I hate you because you are a Mormon, that is no different than if I actually love you, but work to expose the anti Christian writings of MormonISM (the LDS belief system.)

Sorry, I disagree.

BTW, Christians are not anti-Judiasm as I have observed, so that statement is kinda a straw man arguement.

926 posted on 08/12/2012 12:20:26 AM PDT by Syncro (The Tea Party is Dead- [MSM].....LONG LIVE THE TEA PARTY!)
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To: Jim from C-Town; Gilbo_3; DoughtyOne; dalebert; Impy; stephenjohnbanker; reaganaut
RE :”They are all RINO’s All of them I Tell ya.

Good try except I didn't post “RINO’ on this thread, you did. Ryan will do exactly as he has been told as he has always done which is why he got this pick.

Romney is a liberal and Ryan is now praising him as the solutions to our problems. What principles is that?

But since you asked, Ryan :
-Supported TARP
-Auto Bailouts
-Medicare Plan D
-Every Bush budget, no cuts
-No Child Left Behind
- He backed a bill in 2007 to bar employer discrimination based on sexual orientation, saying at the time that his gay friends “didn't choose to be gay.”

And more recently that 2011 debt extension bill that he supported and Republicans now try to blame Obama for(the automatic cuts).

927 posted on 08/12/2012 12:20:26 AM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is still a liberal. Just watch him. (Obama-ney Care ))
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To: Jim Robinson
Mr Robinson, it's probably about time that I take this good opportunity to say that I have always agreed with your stated views and opinions.

Indeed, I am always inspired and impressed with the rock solid Conservative standards that you set. You are a truly Great American!

Long Live Jim Robinson and Long Live FRee Republic!

There is no way I can vote for Liberal Romney, for exactly the reasons you posted. As far as I am concerned, I look forward to voting for Ryan in 2016. :)

929 posted on 08/12/2012 12:22:46 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (Siri: Gold Baby, Gold!)
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To: Jim from C-Town; SaraJohnson

What is logical is that Romney is lying, just like has has always done in the past. He hasn’t changed his mind on anything.


930 posted on 08/12/2012 12:23:06 AM PDT by reaganaut (VAB! Voting against both Romney and Obama.)
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To: DRey

Thank you. ;o)

“All else is between the individual and God to hash out and we’ve all got plenty of ‘splainin to do. “Judge not lest you be judged,” “Cast the first stone” ... “yada yada yada.”

I know that I am the last person on this earth who should judge anyone. I’ll leave that to God. Too, hate is ugly, and only hurts those who hate. I’ve never understood that emotion, and I’m a woman! We know emotions like the back of our hands. ;o)

“When can we move on?”

Yes...PLEASE?


931 posted on 08/12/2012 12:23:06 AM PDT by dixiechick2000 (This hobbit is looking for her pitchfork...God help the GOP if I find it.)
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To: Norm Lenhart
Not often I'll post this....but I couldn't have said that better myself.

I especially want to emphasize this bit:

"As for faith and belief, if you don’t believe your faith is correct, why in Sam Hell are you are a member of it? And why would you NOT put it above everyone elses and defend it completely?"

I've always wondered the same thing. It's like when people say: "You always think you're right." Well, yes, I tell them, if I thought I was wrong, I'd change what I thought, because.....well I'd think something ELSE was right.

Critical and logical thinking is an increasingly rare and precious commodity.

Hank

932 posted on 08/12/2012 12:23:55 AM PDT by County Agent Hank Kimball (Screw it. Newt's the smartest candidate and the guy I want to see debating Obummer. Flame away.)
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To: DRey
Take it up with Joseph Smith, or God if you ever see him. Romney loves Jesus Christ and acknowledges him as his Lord and Savior, and that’s all you, as a Christian, need to know.

That's interesting that you mention take it up with Joseph Smith.

The Mormons believe that all who go to heaven have to pass by Joseph Smith. I guess to get his approval.

As a Christian, I won't have to worry about that, he won't be there.

Romney may love Jesus, but as he is a Mormon, it is a different jesus.

There own writings declare this.

933 posted on 08/12/2012 12:24:50 AM PDT by Syncro (The Tea Party is Dead- [MSM].....LONG LIVE THE TEA PARTY!)
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To: sf4dubya
Go sell your fringe stuff to someone else. I am not buying.

Obviously. You're too busy running after the crowd supporting the pro-choice democrat socialist. Good luck with that.

934 posted on 08/12/2012 12:24:56 AM PDT by EternalVigilance (The saving of America starts the day conservatives stop supporting what they say they hate.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
I look forward to voting for Ryan in 2016.

Better make that 2020.
935 posted on 08/12/2012 12:25:25 AM PDT by DRey (Ryan/Cruz 2020)
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To: sf4dubya
It doesn't matter if they voted Republican, That would just make the RINOS as well, just like that Damn Mark Levin, Such a RINO. It is rumored that he to is a JOOW RINO. Dennis Prager, another JOOW RINO Like all of the other Republicans. All but me, I remain pure, no one can say I will not hold forth as a true Conservative Republican!

OH NO , I just realized I voted for that Damn RINO Newt in the primaries. He actually resigned from the House of Reps and he worked with Clinton ALL BECAUSE HE WAS A RINO. If only I could be pure, I am not! I too am now a RINO. Forgive me, forgive me all! I have failed!

To sleep to sleep perchance to dream! Possibly dream of the perfect RINO free party!

936 posted on 08/12/2012 12:25:55 AM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: sickoflibs

Good info, thanks for the post.


937 posted on 08/12/2012 12:28:07 AM PDT by Syncro (The Tea Party is Dead- [MSM].....LONG LIVE THE TEA PARTY!)
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To: dixiechick2000

How have you been, my dear? We are at a crossroads in this election from which there is no turning back. I will battle Romney tooth and nail over his liberal social policies but for Obama to remain in the White House is unthinkable.


938 posted on 08/12/2012 12:28:18 AM PDT by doug from upland (Just in case, it has been reserved: www.TheBitchIsBack2012.com)
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To: sickoflibs

Good info, thanks for the post.


939 posted on 08/12/2012 12:28:31 AM PDT by Syncro (The Tea Party is Dead- [MSM].....LONG LIVE THE TEA PARTY!)
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To: dixiechick2000
"Too, hate is ugly, and only hurts those who hate...."

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Eccch. More pablum.

I hate leftists. Hate them. Anyone who wishes to be a free person should hate them. The unwillingess to do so is the willingness to be a slave.

Hank

940 posted on 08/12/2012 12:28:31 AM PDT by County Agent Hank Kimball (Screw it. Newt's the smartest candidate and the guy I want to see debating Obummer. Flame away.)
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