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Ryan is a good man, but does not redeem the abortionist/homosexualist statist Romney
Aug 11, 2012 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 08/11/2012 4:42:48 PM PDT by Jim Robinson

Except for his unfortunate go along to get along support of TARP, bailouts, stimulus spending and the increased credit limit, etc, Ryan is a pretty good choice. Probably the best choice of the RINOS that were on Romney's short list. I support Ryan for the vice presidency. Wish he were at the top of the ticket, though.

But I still cannot and will not support the grand father of ObamaCare. Romney still loves and brags about his bastard brainchild, RomneyCare, even today when he knows what an anti-liberty socialist POS it is.

And the fact that he advocated that abortion should be safe and legal in America for over three decades of his adult lifetime and even advocated that Roe v Wade should be supported and sustained as settled law precludes any consideration whatsoever by this pro-life Christian for Myth Romney for the presidency.

And the fact that he boasted that he would be better for "gay rights" than Ted Kennedy, and proved it just increases my resistance.

That, and his penchant for gun control, his continuing support for global warming, gays in the scouts, gays in the military, and his record of appointing liberal judges makes it all but impossible for me to support him.

Lastly, we're having a bit of changeover on our moderator staff. At least two moderators resigned this afternoon after I flatly refused to rein in a so-called anti-Mormon "bigot" on FR. Well, if being in opposition to false prophets and false prophecy makes a Christian believer a bigot, then I guess I'm a bigot. I've posted before that I flat do not believe that the Book of Mormon is the true word of God. Nor do I believe that Joseph Smith was a prophet of God. The Christian bible warns us to be weary of false prophets and that I am. Romney being the presumptive Republican nominee does not change that fact.


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To: RaisingCain
The fact that he is a Mormon is just the icing on the cake.

Are you sure you do not mean; just the opposite? Or perhaps; this is an 'upside-down' cake?

841 posted on 08/11/2012 11:07:12 PM PDT by cricket (http://voteron2012.com/)
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To: cricket

“Are you sure you do not mean; just the opposite? Or perhaps; this is an ‘upside-down’ cake?”


You’re right. I should have thought of a better way to say it. Not even sugar on a turd gives the right idea, since it isn’t icing.


842 posted on 08/11/2012 11:08:36 PM PDT by RaisingCain
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To: RaisingCain
Remember, if oboma wins, YOU CHOSE NOT to save this country by virtue of your not voting, or writing in another name.

So, own it. You made the choice. And know that the those of us who did vote for the only option that we had, WILL NOT FORGET YOU and OTHERS LIKE YOU, who turned a deaf ear and looked the other way when we asked for help.

You chose to vote for oboma when you failed to vote for Romney. So what are you going to do with your principles when oboma puts his jackboot on your neck and makes you bend to socialism/communism/marxism/sharia law that oboma loves so much, and makes living in this country hell on earth? Too late, too bad, so sad for you. Misplaced principles won't buy you freedom once you've lost it. Ask anyone who has suffered under socialism/communism/marxism/sharia law...learn from them what it is to suffer...and then look over your stated reasons for not voting for Romney...they're lightweight when compared to suffering and loss of the Constitution, liberty and freedom.

Either vote for Romney and get to live for another four years until the 2016 elections and a chance to choose and vote for a Conservative who can win, or know that you gave it up to oboma, and live with that for the rest of your life.

843 posted on 08/11/2012 11:09:00 PM PDT by itssme
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To: CWSNTEXAS

LOL, you have the most over the top, drama queen posting style that I think I’ve ever seen.


844 posted on 08/11/2012 11:10:03 PM PDT by ansel12 (Massachusetts Governors, where the GOP goes for it's "conservative" Presidential candidates.)
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To: Jim Robinson
The beauty behind the two-party system is that less than half of the country will always vote for the loser. That means that nearly half of your countrymen could have their heads squarely up their asses and yet, you won't be subject to their whims. 2008 defied this rule. We now live in a world as envisioned by the butt-dwellers whose lack of vision puts us all in mortal danger.

We will defeat Obama because the Left lacks compassion. True compassion would 'teach' a man to fish, not give him one, and then another, and then another...etc. until the shelf runs dry of fish, wherein starvation ensues.

Romney knows capitalism, Obama does not. Ryan knows budgets, Obama does not. Capitalism teaches people how to fish, even those reluctant to learn. Socialism teaches people to wait for a hand-out, even the reluctant. Capitalism teaches fiscal discipline, socialism does not and will ultimately end in bankruptcy.

I care less about who leads our ticket today as I know who leads theirs. I know what awaits if we do not remove this administration. Speculation is a luxury we may not be able to afford if Obama gets a second term. We are fighting the Cold War on our own turf now. We must snuff it out once-and-for-all or the American dream dies.

845 posted on 08/11/2012 11:10:27 PM PDT by budwiesest (It's that girl from Alaska, again.)
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To: Norm Lenhart

I would petition you to change the phrase ‘more likely’ to ‘more often’.


846 posted on 08/11/2012 11:10:39 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid (Semper Fi)
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To: SaraJohnson
‘I did not see any conservative on here promoting any of that!’

They still aren't Romney says he has changed. We know Obama hasn't. Therefore we vote Romney.

It is really very logical.

847 posted on 08/11/2012 11:11:05 PM PDT by Jim from C-Town (The government is rarely benevolent, often malevolent and never benign!)
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To: itssme

“Remember, if oboma wins, YOU CHOSE NOT to save this country by virtue of your not voting, or writing in another name.”


What’s funny about this is that you’re screwed no matter which way it goes. Mitt Romney isn’t going to “save” the country, and my vote certainly won’t. In fact, politics of any stripe won’t save it at all. We, as a country, are under divine judgment. This is the real reason that we have the leaders that we do. They represent the shallow, vain and plastic nature of our own souls as a nation. We trust in these self-proclaimed god-men to save us instead of looking to the God in heaven who literally created this nation. This nation was not won on the back of men, but on the back of angels and of God. Nothing except the power of God can explain our origins... and yet we imagine that we can save the country by embracing liars and cheats and plastic idols? All these “Christian” and “patriotic” Americans have lost their first love, and as a result they are being given exactly what they deserive... the ultimate faker, a Kenyan born Muslim or a lying, cheating, dirty good for nothing Republican who is a member of a religious cult that PRETENDS to be Christian... just like the nation!


848 posted on 08/11/2012 11:13:22 PM PDT by RaisingCain
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To: Norm Lenhart

You’ve been nosing around my underwear drawers while my back was turned, I see...


849 posted on 08/11/2012 11:14:34 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid (Semper Fi)
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To: The KG9 Kid; doug from upland

Since 1998 here (as you both know). Dittos.

People have to vote their conscience and I will not deride anyone for honestly doing that...even if I disagree with them and feel that this election is going to determine whether this Republic survives for my kids and grandkids.

With that at stake, the choice becomes very clear. Obama must go, and he must be run out on a rail...and we must have a President, a House and a Senate that will work together to undo the almost irreparable harm he has already done.

I intend to do all in my power to accomplish that.

And this whole thing about FR becoming now one of the premier anti-Mormon sites on the internet is equally sad, IMHO. It only serves to marginalize its effectiveness as a conservative site for all loyal Americans...and a lot of people who are not LDS see it and understand it...and are either departing, or retreating back to lurker mode while “like minded” individuals against millions of loyal Americans take their place here because they have been provided a safe haven.

I am LDS, Jesus Christ is my Savior and my King and Lord. I look forward to His return, and should I not live to see it from this side, then I shall return with Him in the air.

God’s speed to you both.

AMERICA AT THE CROSSROADS OF HISTORY
http://www.jeffhead.com/crossroads.htm


850 posted on 08/11/2012 11:15:23 PM PDT by Jeff Head (Freedom is not free, never has been, never will be (www.dragonsfuryseries.com))
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To: reaganaut; Elsie; Jim Robinson
RE :”At least two moderators resigned this afternoon after I flatly refused to rein in a so-called anti-Mormon “bigot” on FR. “

This reminds me, Are you two ladies still tormenting those LDS cultists? :)
LDS motto : 'Milk before meat'. Romney is the 'milk'.

Did you see Romney's religious freedom ad against Obama?? It never mentions Christians or more specifically Catholics but says 'religions'. Are Muslims opposing Obama-care?
It does present Romney as Reagan (not confused with reaganaut) in Poland. Isn't that a Catholic country?

851 posted on 08/11/2012 11:15:25 PM PDT by sickoflibs (Romney is still a liberal. Just watch him. (Obama-ney Care ))
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To: Jim Robinson

Romney’s a Mormon?!


852 posted on 08/11/2012 11:15:44 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Whatever a homosexual union might be or represent, it is not physically marital. - F.Cardinal George)
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To: The KG9 Kid
...You’re right, Romney is a milquetoast liberal...Republican. I’m still going to vote for Romney anyway though, even if I had to stomp across a carpet of bibles wearing muddy fishing boots to a polling place that was in the back room of a Planned Parenthood clinic and tongue-kiss Sarah Brady before I could cast my ballot...

You may well have the record, at least so far, for marking the depths to which Romney Republicans will go.

853 posted on 08/11/2012 11:16:02 PM PDT by EternalVigilance (The saving of America starts the day conservatives stop supporting what they say they hate.)
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To: nicmarlo
But Romney's a puppet of the GOP-e. Boehner is part of that cadre. By selecting Ryan, the GOP-e has removed the heavy hitting Tea Party chair from the Budget Committee and the powerful Ways and Means committee. Boehner, as House Speaker, is who picks those in the select committees (i.e., the Budget Committee and the Ways and Means). And now Ryan can both be silenced in the House and replaced
That parallels my thoughts when it was announced that Ryan would be the VP pick.

It was to marganalize him, and at the same time make people think that Romney would go along with Ryan's tea party principles. Not by a long shot.

I imagine that Romney's thugs are right now backstabbing Ryan and his values.

And maybe McCain is helping, just like Mitt did with Palin; sending his team to McCain to destroy as much Tea Party ideals and Conservativism as they could.

854 posted on 08/11/2012 11:16:15 PM PDT by Syncro (The Tea Party is Dead- [MSM].....LONG LIVE THE TEA PARTY!)
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To: entropy12
I wish we had a better choice at top of ticket

GOD is the TOP OF THE TICKET - HE IS at the TOP of everything. He knows all and sees all.

"Trust in the LORD with all thine heart; and lean not unto thine own understanding.”

“In all thy ways ACKNOWLEDGE HIM, and HE shall direct thy paths.”

“Be not wise in thine own eyes: fear the LORD, and DEPART from evil.”

How many Christians are acknowledge God in their vote? If they did - HE would direct their path. Basically those who bow to evil - does NOT believe GOD/HIS WORD. Willful disobedience yet hoping that mitt will save them from obama! How heathen of them!

855 posted on 08/11/2012 11:16:24 PM PDT by presently no screen name
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To: The KG9 Kid

Just pointing out the obvious actually. BTW, don’t you have a Bible to deface, a gun owner to mock or some other conservative value to piss all over? I hear TBL is looking for disgruntled Freepers.

You said it, I didn’t.


856 posted on 08/11/2012 11:17:59 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: centurion316

Ooh, you gonna get it.


857 posted on 08/11/2012 11:20:03 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Whatever a homosexual union might be or represent, it is not physically marital. - F.Cardinal George)
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To: Syncro
maybe McCain is helping, just like Mitt did with Palin; sending his team to McCain to destroy as much Tea Party ideals and Conservativism as they could.

Yeah, we talked about what McCain and the GOP-e did to Palin too. Sad what they've done and allowed to be done to this country.

858 posted on 08/11/2012 11:20:52 PM PDT by nicmarlo
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To: EternalVigilance

His post represents the ABO mindset perfectly. He just put it into words. Some of them should think about that...and associating themselves with it.


859 posted on 08/11/2012 11:21:14 PM PDT by Norm Lenhart
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To: woofie; Magic Fingers

There will come a day when Sarah Palin will be declared a RINO.

Mark my words.


860 posted on 08/11/2012 11:21:32 PM PDT by Jeff Chandler (Whatever a homosexual union might be or represent, it is not physically marital. - F.Cardinal George)
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