The FReeper Foxhole Remembers Lt. Richard Winters at Brecourt Manor - (6/6/1944)

You to. That's when I started to turn against him.
And I voted for him. Hey everyones entitled to one mistake.
Strange thing I find it hard to find people who voted for him, I guess they don't want to be associated with this loser.

61 posted on 01/21/2004 9:56:23 AM PST by Valin (We make a living by what we get, we make a life by what we give.)

To: Professional Engineer

The DVD is really good!

62 posted on 01/21/2004 9:57:42 AM PST by Valin (We make a living by what we get, we make a life by what we give.)

Looked it up, there were units of the 3rd Fallschirmjager Division opposing the 101st in Normandy.

On 6 June 1944 the II Parachute Corps, including the 3rd Parachute Division, was ordered to Normandy to counterattack a reported Allied air landing near Coutances. As soon as this report proved false, the II Parachute Corps was ordered to counterattack in the area of Saint-Lô with 3rd Parachute Division, along with the 352nd Infantry Division and the still absent 17th SS Panzer Grenadier Division, and push the invaders back to the Channel. With its headquarters at Les Cheris, 10 kilometres (6 miles) southeast of Avranches, the II Parachute Corps was under the tactical control of LXXXIV Army Corps.

The Allied objectives were the ports of Cherbourg and Brest which were vital to their supply lines and these lay in the operational area of General Eugen Mendl's II Para Corps. On the 7th June elements from 3rd Para were sent to the beachhead and the rest to St-Lo where the 5th Para Division were already positioned to the west. 2nd Para Division were transferred from the Eastern Front to Brittany where they were joined with 6th Para Regiment who were already stationed there. The first objective of these units was to seize strategic points which had not yet been taken by the Americans. von der Heydte ordered 2nd battalion to take St. Marie-Eglise and the 1st Battalion to take St Marie du Mont and the 3rd Battalion to seize Carantan.

During the first week of the Allied invasion 1st Battalion was almost wiped out and the other two battalions were forced to fight rearguard actions to hold Carentan. All roads to Carantan were under the control of the Americans and no supplies could reach the beleaguered Fallschirmjäger who were supplied by a single air drop of ammunition which allowed them to continue fight their way out of the encirclement at Carantan. They were then encircled at St Lo where again they escaped only to eventually eventually caught up in the Falaise Pocket. Only 40 Fallschirmjäger survived.

General Bernard Ramcke commanding 2nd Parachute Division was ordered to hold Brittany against allied airborne and seaborne assaults. From their base in Cologne the trek to France had been a lengthy and hazardous affair with allied air strikes causing much delay and damage. Partisan activity in France was also a problem with rail links being constantly disrupted. They did not arrive until 19th June with some other units of the division not arriving until July thus depriving valuable reinforcements to the battle area. During this time the American 1st and 3rd armies were threatening to break out from their beachheads and rupture the German front-line where it was at its weakest. This area was at Cotentin which was held by 3rd and 5th Para Divisions.

63 posted on 01/21/2004 10:20:11 AM PST by SAMWolf (I am Mr. T of Borg. I pity da fool that resists me.)

Some of those experimental aircraft were really wild.

64 posted on 01/21/2004 10:21:11 AM PST by SAMWolf (I am Mr. T of Borg. I pity da fool that resists me.)

To: Colonel_Flagg

Yeah I liked the maps too. I always prefer having a good map available when reading about a battle.

65 posted on 01/21/2004 10:22:22 AM PST by SAMWolf (I am Mr. T of Borg. I pity da fool that resists me.)

To: Professional Engineer

It's worth it. Lt Winters is pretty much the main character during the whole series. I got the DVD set for Christmas the year it came out. Watched it 3 times already

66 posted on 01/21/2004 10:23:49 AM PST by SAMWolf (I am Mr. T of Borg. I pity da fool that resists me.)

I didn't vote him but my friend was a big time supporter. We had to stay away from politics. I never cared for Carter.

67 posted on 01/21/2004 10:25:27 AM PST by SAMWolf (I am Mr. T of Borg. I pity da fool that resists me.)

To: SAMWolf; snippy_about_it; Iris7; Professional Engineer; Darksheare

Great thread, Sam. Dick Winters is just the epitomy of the American citizen soldier. What an outstanding leader - always thinking of the troops and the mission first. (Too bad Weasely Clark didn't get any of those genes.)

I agree the "Bank of Brothers" series is very good, although I thought it got a little dark near the end. I still chuckle at the end of the story at the delicous irony of these soldiers who saw so much hard fighting being rewarded with a billet at Berchtesgarden and the free run of Goering's liquor stock.

68 posted on 01/21/2004 10:40:48 AM PST by colorado tanker ("There are but two parties now, Traitors and Patriots")

To: Johnny Gage; SAMWolf

You mean Air Force One doesn't have an escape pod like in the movie???

69 posted on 01/21/2004 10:42:00 AM PST by colorado tanker ("There are but two parties now, Traitors and Patriots")

I was told the blast radius on a WP grenade is wider than most men can throw. Made me think.

70 posted on 01/21/2004 10:44:15 AM PST by colorado tanker ("There are but two parties now, Traitors and Patriots")

To: colorado tanker

Heck, a couple other recent generals could've used a good shot of Winters ancestry.

71 posted on 01/21/2004 10:44:22 AM PST by Darksheare (This is a normal tagline, there is nothing to fear.. feaR... FeAr...FEAR.)

!!!!!

GM stand watie

free the southland bump back atcha!

72 posted on 01/21/2004 10:45:44 AM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)

I didn't know Winters was back up for the MOH. I hope he gets it.

73 posted on 01/21/2004 10:46:05 AM PST by colorado tanker ("There are but two parties now, Traitors and Patriots")

To: colorado tanker

*winces*
Ouch.
The incendiary grenades we 'played with' during Basic and AIT did exactly blow up.
They more or less smoked for a second, and then made bright hissing flames, and flashes that looked like a welder's kit in use.
And they had set on top of a dead V-12 engine.
Melted metal ran out the underside of the block.
Impressive.

74 posted on 01/21/2004 10:46:33 AM PST by Darksheare (This is a normal tagline, there is nothing to fear.. feaR... FeAr...FEAR.)

To: colorado tanker

OOps, "DIDN'T" exactly blow up.
Cripes, me and my typos today.

75 posted on 01/21/2004 10:47:10 AM PST by Darksheare (This is a normal tagline, there is nothing to fear.. feaR... FeAr...FEAR.)

To: colorado tanker

Nope, I took it the last time I was aboard.

76 posted on 01/21/2004 10:47:59 AM PST by Professional Engineer (Hmm Is 6 lb test too heavy for Martian trout?)

To: Colonel_Flagg

Thanks Colonel, I'm striving to be as good as Sam someday, he picks the best topics, like todays!!

About your tagline...shall I send you a list? ;-)

77 posted on 01/21/2004 10:48:50 AM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)

Good tagline Johnny, I bet we'll all be forgiven for that!! LOL.

78 posted on 01/21/2004 10:50:17 AM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)

To: Professional Engineer; colorado tanker

I didn't even rate the escape pod.
I got launched out the countermeasures tube.

79 posted on 01/21/2004 10:50:30 AM PST by Darksheare (This is a normal tagline, there is nothing to fear.. feaR... FeAr...FEAR.)

To: Professional Engineer; Johnny Gage

I got to watch AF1 land once, boy would I like to have that pilot everytime I fly, it was smooth!

80 posted on 01/21/2004 10:53:05 AM PST by snippy_about_it (Fall in --> The FReeper Foxhole. America's History. America's Soul.)

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