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To: Mike4Freedom
>>>When congress passes laws in violation of the constitution, those laws are illegal and invalid.

I appreciate your opinion.

If an individual believes a specific law enacted by Congress is in violation of the Constitution, that person should fight within the political arena and the legal system, to reverse such a law. Until and unless a law is overturned, it remains legal and valid. It is the law of the land. Period.

20 posted on 08/25/2002 1:49:33 PM PDT by Reagan Man
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To: Reagan Man
“There are three kinds of lies: lies, damn lies, and statistics.” - Benjamin Disraeli

Posted by Reagan Man:
“In the last Pew Center Research Report from August 2001, 86% of American's, do not agree with the following statement, ‘People should be allowed to take any drug they want so long as they don't hurt someone else.’

So? My intent was to provide a brief case outlining why drugs should be legal. I am not attempting to say that most Americans support this notion. Consensus among morons is not a substitute for logic, so I do not consider it a significant point, in regards to this topic. About 50% of voters voted for Algore in the last election. That does not mean that he would make a good President.
The statistic that you quoted only means that a lot of people disagree with me. It contributes nothing to the search for a logical policy regarding drugs that are currently illegal.
I would wager that the disagreement is largely due to the fact that drugs have been illegal for so long. Therefore, legalizing them would be “not the way we’ve always done it” – a common logical fallacy that many fall prey to.

Posted by Reagan Man:
“Both the government and the people it represents, have every right to tell you, you can't snort cocaine. Period. The laws of the land are clear when it comes to the trafficking, purchase, possession and ingestion of those substances the people have declared harmful and illicit.”

I agree that people have the right to tell others that they cannot snort cocaine. I disagree that the people or the government have the right to imprison somebody for buying it, selling it, possessing it, or snorting it. Law grants government the power, but that does not grant it the right. Rights are not granted; they are inalienable.

I agree with Reagan Man’s last post, though:
“If an individual believes a specific law enacted by Congress is in violation of the Constitution, that person should fight within the political arena and the legal system, to reverse such a law. Until and unless a law is overturned, it remains legal and valid. It is the law of the land. Period.”

Public opinion needs to change, before there will be any hope of winning in the political or legal arena. This thread is part of an attempt at that change. Commander8 raised an important issue to consider, if this change were to occur, and legalization were to become a reality:

“Frankly, I would like to see the welfare state abolished before drugs are legalized.
If the welfare state is jettisoned first and then drugs leagalized, those who choose to ruin their lives with drugs will do so without some agency there to rehabilitate (translation:substitute their heroin with methodone.) them and they would have to either straighten themselves out or starve.”

21 posted on 08/25/2002 2:34:57 PM PDT by Schmedlap
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