[Stepan12]

Hate crime legislation for example is a crime against thought, so that's wrong. Forcing employers to hire someone against their will is wrong. I'm not sure what "homosexual rights" you are talking about. We believe in individual rights.

Libertarians are dope smoking hippies with a few right wing bounces. I'm sure that many supporters of Lenin did not believe in Cheka terror, war Communism, and the brutal supression at Kronstadt, they simply wanted the "land, bread, and peace" that Lenin preached.

Likewise, I'm sure that many Nazis were not so keen (at first) on putting Jews in gas chambers, they just wanted the humiliation of the Versaille treaty to be gone; however, it is the ideas of the leaders Lenin, Hitler; etc., that determine a party's movement, not some of its more naive followers.

[Dead Corpse]

A "few" Right-wing bounces?

Like real RKBA? Like real laissez-faire capitalism? Like real limited government? Like real personal responsibility? Like real property Rights?

You still don't have a clue. You don't win an argument against rabid individualists by invoking collectivist/socialist imagery. You just make yourself look retarded.

[ChrisInAR]

If you want a decent essay on libertarianism, read this pamphlet that was written in 1850 by a man that libertarians & strict constitutions like myself hold in high refard:

http://www.constitution.org/law/bastiat.htm

Please pay special attention to the Preface, because I think it is very impoertant these days.

Notice also how Mr. Bastiat, who was a member of the French legislature, praises the United States. My only disagreement w/ him is that he didn't think that women should have the right to vote, but other than that I think his words are spot-on. It sends "a thrill up my leg" every time I read it!

[daniel885]

Libertarians are dope smoking hippies with a few right wing bounces. I'm sure that many supporters of Lenin did not believe in Cheka terror, war Communism, and the brutal supression at Kronstadt, they simply wanted the "land, bread, and peace" that Lenin preached.

Likewise, I'm sure that many Nazis were not so keen (at first) on putting Jews in gas chambers, they just wanted the humiliation of the Versaille treaty to be gone; however, it is the ideas of the leaders Lenin, Hitler; etc., that determine a party's movement, not some of its more naive followers.

What the heck? Libertarianism, the true conservatism, believes in limited government and free markets and somehow you compare that to socialism and fascism. Those ideologies relied on government control... so I hate to break it to you buddy but your distorted form of conservatism is much closer to those political ideologies than mine.