Historically, a country is 'liberated' from a foreign oppressor as France was liberated from Nazi Germany.
We occupied Iraq for a while then, in a big ceremony, turned over the keys so to speak.
Actually, I was thinking of how Jefferson didn't try to occupy Tripoli.
As for providing security...for whom? A whole lot of Iraqis have been killed.
Iraq, unlike Germany or Japan, is an artifice of British map-makers and not a 'nation' as such.
Binding the three Iraqi factions together with oil money may or may not work. It is nation building, something we chided Clinton on and something Bush directly opposed in 2000.
Historically, a country is ‘liberated’ from a foreign oppressor as France was liberated from Nazi Germany.
>>>>>So you’re saying the definition of liberation is only defined by the so called liberator?
Or are you saying what we did for Iraq isn’t different from what Germany did to France?
As for providing security...for whom? A whole lot of Iraqis have been killed.
>>>>People die in wars. People die during peace too.
Some 24 MILLION Iraqis are no longer under Saddam’s thumb. Saddam was a terrorist and the world is a better place with him and his sons gone.
While Iraqis had zero US security many more still died.
Iraq, unlike Germany or Japan, is an artifice of British map-makers and not a ‘nation’ as such.
>>>>Don’t have any idea how that’s relevant...they’re still a country recognized as such by the rest of the world. It really doesn’t matter how they became a nation, only that they are.
Also with a far better chance now of being a nation that participates in peace with the rest of the world...under Saddam Iraqis fought an 8 year war with Iran, invaded Kuwait, launched missles at Saudis and Israel and brutalized it’s own with wmd’s.
You simply can not suggest Iraqis were better off under Saddam’s “guidance”!
Binding the three Iraqi factions together with oil money may or may not work. It is nation building, something we chided Clinton on and something Bush directly opposed in 2000.
>>>>We liberated Iraq, it would be irresponsible to simply leave, that was the lesson of WW1. It wasn’t that we invaded Iraq to nation build as much as it was to remove a lunatic at war with all his neighbors at one time or another, and hellbent to become even more dangerous in the region. I never saw him or his sons turn over a new leaf!