[Cruising Speed]

Germany did attack us (U-boat attacks against shipping) and it was a conventional war against a conventional state. This is an asymmetric war against a global cabal--quite a different thing.

Eisenhower was no isolationist and neither is Paul. Eisenhower was adamantly against pre-emptive war--wouldn't even talk about it. Bush, however, has made pre-emptive war an official policy of the U.S.--a very unconservative policy.

[hellbender]

Eisenhower was adamantly against pre-emptive war--wouldn't even talk about it.

Uh..Ike ended the Korean War by threatening use of our nuclear weapons. A dramatic preemptive escalation of a little "police action."

This is my last post to you. I don't want to waste time debating with someone who lives in a dream world of fantasy and dogma.

[hellbender]

We did not go to war with Germany because of their attacks on our shipping. Germany declared war on us in support of their Jap allies, after the Japs attacked us at Pearl Harbor. An attack on U.S. turf, just like 9/11.