Philosophical Problems with the Mormon Concept of God

Christian Research Institute ^ | Francis J. Beckwith

[CARepubGal]

I did. You are not aware of JS and BY's interesting lives? My bible study group is reading 2 Samuel and one of the interesting things God did was show King David complete with flaws and failings. Joseph Smith and Brigham Young were presented by your church as supermen. Please read Todd Compton's book In Sacred Loneliness for more info on polygamy and JS & BY's actions specifically.

[White Mountain]

Your #232 needs correction:

President Gordon B. Hinckley is a faithful, true and living apostle of Jesus Christ and prophet of God.

Doesn't matter how many times you deny it.

[White Mountain]

Your #280: Thanks for clearing that up, saves me the trouble of asking him. So, where is White Mountain? (i live in the East)

Continental US. I took my FReepername from the White Mountains of New Hampshire, one of my favorite places to visit, especially in the fall.

[Calvinist_Dark_Lord]

President Gordon B. Hinckley is a faithful, true and living apostle of Jesus Christ and prophet of God.

Gordon B. Hinkley is a false prophet who is continuing in the traditions of men, namely other false prophets, leading astray and into perdition those who will follow him to the end. Repent lest you perish.

Doesn't matter how many times you deny it.

Doesn't matter if i never said a word, he will remain a false prophet lest he repent, and turn to the true God.

[restornu]

[Calvinist_Dark_Lord]

i hope some day to make it to Green Mountain in Vermont...i read of Ethan Allen when i was a child, always wanted to see the area. Wonder if the Catamount tavern still exists?

[restornu]

You would be so lucky to do in your life time a thimble of what he has accomplished in his life time. He is 92 and still traveling full time around the world nurturing the flock!

It is the Lord who is the wind beneath his wings! There is no way one human being could do all that he had done!

[Calvinist_Dark_Lord]

Let me guess...you're chairman of the Utah Debating Society. Not a very effective argument technique.

[P-Marlowe]

We're pushing 300 posts and other than Wai-ming, I don't think there has been a single serious post addressing the issues presented in this article. Now the thread has deteriorated into a cartoon fest.

Having now taken the time to read this article, I believe that it presents a compelling case as to why, from a philosophical standpoint, the Mormon god is quite inferior to the God that is presented in the bible and that has been presented by Orthodox Judaism and Orthodox Christianity.

It is interesting that none of the mormons tried to refute this little quote. Maybe they missed it:


"Based on the statements of Mormon leaders, some LDS scholars contend that a premortal spirit is "organized" by God through "spirit birth." In this process, human spirits are somehow organized through literal sexual relations between our Heavenly Father and one or more mother gods, whereby they are conceived and born as spirit children prior to entering the mortal realm (although all human persons prior to spirit birth existed as intelligences in some primal state of cognitive personal existence).15 Since the God of Mormonism was himself organized (or spirit-birthed) by his God, who himself is a "creation" of yet another God, and so on ad infinitum, Mormonism therefore teaches that the God over this world is a contingent being in an infinite lineage of gods.16 Thus, Mormonism is a polytheistic religion."

Now this is my understanding of how little spirit children are "organized" in the premordial life. The footnotes point to these sources.

15 Bruce McConkie, Mormon Doctrine, 2d ed. (Salt Lake City: Bookcraft, 1966), 386-87, 516-17, 750-51.

16 See Joseph Smith, History of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (hereafter HC), 7 vols., introduction and notes, B. H. Roberts, 2d rev. ed. (Salt Lake City: The Deseret Book Company, 1978), 6:305-12.

Does anyone care to refute this? Or is this an accurate statement of LDS theology? If it is incorrect, please correct us and show us the sources that you rely on for a differing opinion.

[drstevej]

***It is the Lord who is the wind beneath his wings!***

Godron Hinckley has wings?

[Elsie]

With apologies to Michaelangelo, I present the infinite 'god' of the LDS organization

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Hey DAD! Wait up for ME!

[Calvinist_Dark_Lord]

Here's one who did.

JESUS

Let Him lead you to the truth.

[Elsie]

If THIS don't cure your dyslexia, NOTHING will!!!

[White Mountain]

Your #220: Just before my mother died

She was on the verge of finding out how glorious the next life is. I am sure she was comforted by our merciful God. May you be comforted in your loss.

[Elsie]

But at LEAST Illbay has dropped all (most?) of his pretensions...

[P-Marlowe]

I think he blew a fuse.

[restornu]

Why would I waste spit with an ex-Mormon! I find it more productive to talk to one with an open mind!

You want to reinforce your point of view continue to read anit LDS material.

[White Mountain]

Your #291: Godron Hinckley has wings?

I am sure you will figure it out, Steve.

[P-Marlowe]

Why would I waste spit with an ex-Mormon!

I deliberately did not ping you to post 290 because I was hoping to get an intelligent discussion going.

Unfortunately, you do not appear to have the qualifications for that type of discussion.

You may carry on with your inane cartoon posting. I know it is the best you are capable of.