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Philosophical Problems with the Mormon Concept of God
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| Francis J. Beckwith
Posted on 02/13/2003 6:03:04 PM PST by scripter
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To: P-Marlowe
Yea, i noticed, but my ears aren't what they used to be, it should have read "SSSSSSSSaintssssssss...." You know how it is, get older and start to loose the high frequency.
To: restornu
That's really pathetic, rest. Are you that out of arguments that you have to resort to that?
Yeah, I suppose you are.
Yeah, I suppose you do.
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posted on
02/17/2003 7:33:11 PM PST
by
P-Marlowe
(Are you ready to meet your "Organizer?")
To: Calvinist_Dark_Lord; Illbay; All
I can't even read his "hokum" anymore. I can't even imagine a child falling for this "fairy tale" of a religion, let alone average intellect adults. From my experience, Cults attract those that have "issues" or are lost sheep searching for self-gratification. Mormanism fits the bill to the tee. They have sucked in the "heavy laden" with promises and lies.
Illbay has proved all my pre-conceived notions to be true. The 10 Commandments are "dead" to him. "I am the Lord your God..." went down the tubes when J.S. arrived on the scene. J.S. became the New Christ and in J.S.'s own words he did a better job than Jesus.
IMO, the Mormons have built a "lifestyle" more than a religion. Just read the recovery threads to see how that "lifesyle" is so difficult to leave. I have lived among Mormans my entire life and it's either you are in or you are out. Their kids can't even be in a regular Boy Scout Troop. Why is that? Personally, I think they are afraid. They stick to themselves, never really socializing with others except those of thier "stake". Illbay will call me a liar, but after a lifetime of neighbors (Kirtland only 4 miles away) I can tell you all these things for facts.
My daughters best friend was from a Mormon family. She sporadically asked my daughter to social events at her church. I had no problem with it, because I have raised my kids to be CHRISTIAN. Never ONCE was her friend allowed in our church for social events. NEVER.
It's fear. Mormonism is full of scare tactics and secrets. Why would they want their kids in a church that is open to all and no strings attatched except for one: Do you except Christ as your personal savior? If you ask them about any of the "weird" stuff, like the underwear or secret names, for instance, they are offended and appalled. And I HAVE asked.
I have loved every one of my Mormon neighbors. They were all wonderful people....but something, that I could never put my finger on, was "off". I think it's fear. It's the "secret society" stuff. They either don't want you to REALLY know what they believe, or they arent' quite sure themselves.
Ok.. End of rant. Anyone else bored with being "condemned to hell" by the Mormon posters on this thread?
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posted on
02/17/2003 7:40:18 PM PST
by
bonfire
To: Elsie; Illbay; White Mountain
Elise being of one substance!:)
244
posted on
02/17/2003 7:42:40 PM PST
by
restornu
(Great out let for a dyslexic!)
Comment #245 Removed by Moderator
To: bonfire; Utah Girl
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posted on
02/17/2003 7:48:20 PM PST
by
restornu
(Great out let for a dyslexic!)
To: restornu
Hey baby, nice giff! Which one of your FALSE PROPHETS is that, Joseph Smith or Gordon B. Hinkley?
To: restornu
OOOOOUuuuuu, Brigham Young, COOL!
To: restornu
1 Corinthians 5:5-6
5. hand this man over to Satan, so that the sinful nature may be destroyed and his spirit saved on the day of the Lord.
6. Your boasting is not good. Don't you know that a little yeast works through the whole batch of dough?
1 Timothy 1:20
Among them are Hymenaeus and Alexander, whom I have handed over to Satan to be taught not to blaspheme.
...hand this man over: Shall we pray this way Restornu? Shall we ask God to deal with you, to save your soul??
1 Timothy 5:15
Some have in fact already turned away to follow Satan.
Revelation 2:9
I know your afflictions and your poverty--yet you are rich! I know the slander of those who say they are Jews and are not, but are a synagogue of Satan.
Acts 26:15-18
15. "Then I asked, `Who are you, Lord?' "`I am Jesus, whom you are persecuting,' the Lord replied.
16. `Now get up and stand on your feet. I have appeared to you to appoint you as a servant and as a witness of what you have seen of me and what I will show you.
17. I will rescue you from your own people and from the Gentiles. I am sending you to them
18. to open their eyes and turn them from darkness to light, and from the power of Satan to God, so that they may receive forgiveness of sins and a place among those who are sanctified by faith in me.'
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posted on
02/17/2003 7:57:44 PM PST
by
Elsie
(You have NO better hope than Jesus!)
To: Calvinist_Dark_Lord
Why that is P_Marlowe isn't he a pip!
250
posted on
02/17/2003 8:02:10 PM PST
by
restornu
(Great out let for a dyslexic!)
To: Elsie
Yada! yada!
251
posted on
02/17/2003 8:04:56 PM PST
by
restornu
(Great out let for a dyslexic!)
To: restornu
Hey, my mistake baby, Joseph Smith and/or Gordon B. Hinkley would have had
GOATheads!
You gotta show me how to do that one of these days. You keep a "library" of those things?
To: restornu
i have to admit that the imagry is cute, but ya got the wrong gender! Elsie is a bull, not a cow!
To: Illbay
***You are right, and you are wrong.***
By GRACE are ye saved, thruogh faith and that not of youreslves. It is the GIFT of GOD, NOT OF WORKS LEST ANY MAN SHOULD BOAST.
Ephesians 2:8&9
No creeds, just the BIBLE.
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posted on
02/17/2003 8:15:11 PM PST
by
Ruy Dias de Bivar
(Jesus paid it all. All to HIM I owe. Sin has left a crimson stain, He washes white as snow.)
To: restornu; Calvinist_Dark_Lord; Elsie; bonfire
Rest. You are really a pathetic person. I feel sorry for you.
If you had anything important to say here, I'm sure you would have said it by now. So far you've said nothing of substance. Instead you post silly animated Gif's which is supposedly a nice way of telling someone they are a cow or a pig or a demon.
Your tag line says you are praying for holiness. Is this an example of it? Pretty sad.
Keep it up, rest. I mean it. You are a great witness to how the Mormon Church is spiritually and intellectually bankrupt.
255
posted on
02/17/2003 8:15:38 PM PST
by
P-Marlowe
(Are you ready to meet your "Organizer?")
To: Calvinist_Dark_Lord
You got a thing for babies?
256
posted on
02/17/2003 8:18:23 PM PST
by
restornu
(Great out let for a dyslexic!)
To: restornu
That your next FALSE PROPHET? BTW, i have less hair! We can keep this up for another hundred or so posts, i have nothing better to do tonite, and i could use a good laugh...can you do the smiley face with the bullet hole between the eyes? i love that one.
To: P-Marlowe; Illbay; White Mountain
PM You seem confused!:)
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posted on
02/17/2003 8:23:19 PM PST
by
restornu
(Great out let for a dyslexic!)
To: restornu
Keep it up.
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posted on
02/17/2003 8:27:09 PM PST
by
P-Marlowe
(Are you ready to meet your "Organizer?")
To: Calvinist_Dark_Lord
Calvin_Dark_Lord
260
posted on
02/17/2003 8:27:50 PM PST
by
restornu
(Great out let for a dyslexic!)
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