Utah Baby Names (That distinctive name that says, "I'm Mormon.")

The Utah Baby Namer ^ | Wes and Cari Clark

[restornu]

We'll see!:)

[restornu]

I am sure that is a negative with you! but the Lord create All kinds of us:)

[Delphinium]

They say that if you throw a rock into a pack of dogs, the one that barks the loudest is the one that got hit.

Thats what my pastor always says. Its true. I was lucky that my grandmothers breaking away from the LDS church is what caused my dad to raise us as jack-mormons. When I excepted the Lord, I thought I was a Mormon until I started reading the Bible. I had never been in any other church but the Mormon church, and no one had told me any thing about what church to join, or not join. My mothers, mother had taken us to Mormon church twice a week while we were growing up. I wasn't too interested in religion, but always loved the Lord and knew He was real. When I was 15, I had a wonderful born again experience. It was at a Christian rock concert. I came home, and couldn't get enough of reading the Bible. Before I ever went to a Bible Study, or Church I knew I was not a Mormon just from reading the Bible. I was lucky that my mind was not all clouded with mens religious garbage.

It was later on when I started studying my family history that I found out what Mormonism, and the Mormon doctrine was all about.

[Delphinium]

Christians are sanctified by the Blood of Jesus Christ. This is the one, and only way to get to God.

[P-Marlowe]

Thats what my pastor always says.

I think we must go to the same church. Check my profile page and see if your church's website is listed. :-)

I had a wonderful born again experience. It was at a Christian rock concert.

Mine was after a christian concert at a coffee house in Stanton CA in 1971. BTW what group was playing? Are you still into listening to Christian Rock music? Check out my profile page for some awesome Christian music sites

It was later on when I started studying my family history that I found out what Mormonism, and the Mormon doctrine was all about.

I had to leave Mormonism before I was ready to truly accept Jesus (on HIS terms). I left Mormonism after I lost a debate with some Christians that I was trying to convert.

[Delphinium]

Sounds like we have alot in common. I excepted Jesus at a "Jesus People Army" rock concert in a park in Richland, Washigton. It was August 21, 1970 I was only 15, but had been away from home partying with 3 of my wild girlfriends. We went to that park to party. 2 of us were changed. I was, and am again living in Idaho. Yes, I am still listening to Christian rock music. The pastor I was talking about oversees several churches now. He is from California, and has a twin brother who is a pastor in California.His name is Tucker.

Your profile page looks interesting, I will take some time to look over it.

My husband grew up in a Lutheran church. He was converted to Mormonism in the 70's. They sent him on a mission to Salt Lake City. He was completely into it. So much so that he was excommunicated for taking the teachings of Joseph Smith, and Brigham Young seriously. He joined the fundlementalists, and wrote a Mormon book about how the church of today has left the teachings of Smith, and Young. It was while researching, and writing this book that his eyes were opened. He is sensitive to Mormons feelings because he knew how it felt. He doesn't like to see people make fun of them. I agree with him. I just believe that by them seeing, and knowing the truth is the only way to freedom.

[P-Marlowe]

Inside these walls I found Jesus.

Fitting name, eh?

It was literally true for me. I was on my way to a fiery eternity and then I met Jesus who rescued me from the flames. A lot of people were rescued from the flames in this place.

[Utah Girl]

OK, so explain to me why I will be damned for my beliefs, when others can just say "I'm saved and believe in Jesus Christ" and all their sins are forgiven them, regardless of how they live after that. I live by His teachings, I believe Christ died and atoned for my sins, so what's the difference? BTW, I always get a kick out of all of you saying we members of the LDS church are going to burn in hell. I do believe I would leave that up to the Lord, Jesus Christ.

[Utah Girl]

How very interesting. I was born into an LDS family, and had the Bible read to me from the time I was a baby. As soon as I was old enough to read, I given my own Bible stories to read (published by another denomination even.) And then as soon as I was able to understand Bible language (at age 8 or so), I was given my own Bible, as well as Book of Mormon to read from (we were also taught from the Book of Mormon.) I was taught about Jesus Christ, and have always known he was my Savior, from the time I was very small. Sorry, I do not understand people who say that the LDS church doesn't teach about Jesus Christ. I spent four years in seminary, and took Old Testament, New Testament, Book of Mormon, and LDS Church History. So for two of those years we studied the Bible.

[CARepubGal]

I am so hurt! I want to be on your list! :-)

[RnMomof7]

N.B. If drstevej, BibChr, RnMomof7, Wrigley, Elsie, and Philip Marlowe dropped dead, there'd BE no more "Mormon-bashing" on FR.

Bill you do not mean that do you?...God is faithfull to raise up witnesses there would just be more to give the Gospel ...and I know you do not wish us harm any more than we do you

[P-Marlowe]

I am so hurt! I want to be on your list! :-)

That was Illbay's death wish list. You need to ask him if you are worthy.

Just think of my disappointment. I was LAST on his list. :-(

[CARepubGal]

I 'm not worthy! Although after reading William LeBaron's story, I dunno if being on a Mormon death list is a good idea....(LeBaron got saved and has an interesting tale from polygamy)

[A.J.Armitage]

OK, so explain to me why I will be damned for my beliefs, when others can just say "I'm saved and believe in Jesus Christ" and all their sins are forgiven them, regardless of how they live after that.

But they can't. They have to actually have faith in Jesus, not just say they do. And that faith will produce changes in how they live.

I live by His teachings, I believe Christ died and atoned for my sins, so what's the difference?

The difference is that you don't live by His teachings. If you did, you'd flee from unity with blasphemers.

[P-Marlowe]

OK, so explain to me why I will be damned for my beliefs

People are damned for their sins. they are saved solely by the atoning sacrifice of Christ on the cross for their sins. If you think that there is anything you can do to save yourself from your sins or if you think there are additional requisites to forgiveness of your sins, such as "obedience to the laws and ordinances of the (LDS)gospel" or baptism by the LDS Church or anything other than the Blood of Jesus Christ, then you are denying the sacrifice of Jesus for your sins and hence you are still under the condemnation of your own sins.

Now in order to believe in Jesus you need to believe in THE TRUE Jesus and not some counterfeit Jesus. The Mormons believe that Jesus is literally the Brother of Satan and that Jesus was not God from all eternity and that Jesus did not create everything, etc. This is not the Jesus that is revealed in scripture. the Jesus revealed in Scripture is the ETERNAL WORD OF GOD.

Hence if you buy into the Mormon doctrine, then (IMHO) you do not believe in the Jesus that died on the cross and your belief will not be effective in bringing about any atonement for your sins.

[Utah Girl]

You're not my judge, Jesus Christ will judge me and will judge how I lived my life and followed His teachings. I'm not perfect, but I have faith in Jesus Christ and in His power. And since you seem to know all, exactly what teachings do I not live???

[Utah Girl]

Um, OK, so you don't believe in baptism? And you contradicted yourself. First of all, you say we don't have to do anything to be saved by Jesus Christ, if that is true, then my beliefs shouldn't condemn me to everlasting hell. Can't have it both ways.

[Utah Girl]

I'd love to spar with you guys all night long, but I've been hit with a headache. Talk to you tomorrow. And again, I will let Jesus Christ judge me on Judgement day. His judgement is the one that matters. :)

[P-Marlowe]

First of all, you say we don't have to do anything to be saved by Jesus Christ, if that is true, then my beliefs shouldn't condemn me to everlasting hell.

Your beliefs do not condemn you, your sin condemns you. your belief in another Jesus is merely an obstacle on the path to salvation. Just go around that obstacle and accept the sacrifice of Jesus for your sins and Believe on the Jesus that is revealed in the Bible and you will be saved.

The problem is that you refuse to acknowledge that you believe in a different Jesus. You need to simply surrender to the Jesus who can actually save you, not the one that Joseph Smith invented, not the Brother-of-Satan-promoted-to-the-godhead-by-the-council-of-the-gods-on-Kolob Jesus, but the creator-of-everything-there-is-no-God-besides-me-the-first-and-the-last-the-almighty Jesus.

Are you willing to do that?

Are you willing to follow Jesus even if it means following him OUT of the LDS Church?

Or does the LDS Church mean more to you than the REAL Jesus?

[A.J.Armitage]

You're not my judge, Jesus Christ will judge me and will judge how I lived my life and followed His teachings. I'm not perfect, but I have faith in Jesus Christ and in His power. And since you seem to know all, exactly what teachings do I not live???

An Arian or a Gnostic or an outright pagan could say the same thing.

I'm not judging you. You're right, Jesus will. I'm just telling you that unless you're given the grace to become a Christian, He'll damn you. I'm not singling you out; that's the way it works for everyone.

As for where you aren't following His teachings, I think I already mentioned blasphemy. To affirm the Mormon belief in the plurality of gods and to affirm that God was a mere human on some other world ruled by some other god is to blaspheme. No Christian can ever be a Mormon.