A critique of the evangelical doctrine of solo scriptura

The Highway ^ | Keith Mathison

[Iowegian]

No difference, you just trust someone else, i.e. the Pope, to tell you what "the truth" is. The Pope is a person- fallible (as history proves). Just as we all are.

[Fury]

The New Testament is the apostolic tradition.

When Paul commands to Timothy to pass along Tradition (2 Timothy 2:2) was he referring to written Tradition only?

[Fury]

I disagree, but it matters not unless you believe that the "apostolic tradition" was different than the written Scriptures.

It includes both written and oral.

[Iowegian]

When Paul commands to Timothy to pass along Tradition (2 Timothy 2:2) was he referring to written Tradition only?

That is, what is written in the OT, and that which Paul and the other apostles taught, which was being written down in the NT at the time. It's very simple, you RC's just like to muddy up the waters to serve your own devices.

[Iowegian]

It includes both written and oral.

I agree, but the oral was only short term, until the written form of the very same oral teaching came.

Do you believe this "oral tradition" is different than the written NT?

[lockeliberty]

You are simply asserting your personal and individual opinion, measured according to your personal and individual understanding of what scripture and the "Rule of faith" teaches.

That's crap and you know it. The early church fathers were taught directly by the Apostles. The objective evidence is the writings of the early church Fathers which delinate how to interpret scripture as taught to them by the Apostles. That the RCC abandoned the strict constructionism of the 'rule of Faith' is not under question, is it? It is not much different than Liberals who wish a 'living document' interpretation of the Constitution. The Apostles passed along these set of beliefs so that there would be unity in the Church against the heresy of Gnosticism. This gave us the objective a priori foundation against the 'special knowledge' of the Gnostics. But now the RCC would like us to believe that the Pope has some 'special knowledge'. Ironic, isn't it?

[G Larry]

Gee, what those poor folk do between the 1st and 4th centuries when the first version of the Bible was assembled?
Must have all been damned?

[lockeliberty]

You should read more carefully.

[Dr. Eckleburg]

It is the rejection of the early creeds that marks cults.

That's a great observation.

[A.J.Armitage]

But the NT wasn't written until after Apostolic Tradition had been handed down for several generations.

After that, he was seen of above five hundred brethren at once; of whom the greater part remain unto this present, but some are fallen asleep. (1 Corinthians 15:6)

[Dr. Eckleburg]

The RCs obviously prefer to follow the current alchemistic heirarchy to the original church fathers taught by the Apostles.

[RnMomof7]

"I" ... "I" ... "I"! The classic Protestant 'papacy of one"!

Yea you are right I could say the koran kissing pope said this or the anti semiti pope said that and becaause they are infallible I will stop seeking the Holy Spirit and be a mindless puppet of rome

You may go pray to your saints now

[RnMomof7]

Pious XII was very quiet during the holocost..where as this pope kisses the koran ..the very people that want to elimate Jews today..silence then and more than silence today

[Iowegian]

He didn't say hold fast to traditions received by word of mouth only until we get this in writing.

So do you think he was speaking of something different than what we now have in Scripture? It seems nobody on your side wants to answer this question.

[Desdemona]

Is this a new Broadway musical?

A critique of the evangelical doctrine of solo scriptura

It has that certain ring to it...

[Iowegian]

What pope are charging with being anti-semitic and what are your reasons?

Angelo, any thoughts on this?

[Polycarp]

Pious XII was very quiet during the holocost

The folks that made up the lies about Pius XII's supposed silence and inaction hate your Christianity as well as mine. You serve their anti-CHRISTIAN agenda, undercutting your own form of Christianity, by repeating the falsehoods against Pius XII. How very tragic.

[lockeliberty]

*******Pious XII was very quiet during the holocost*******

He was just exercising his right to APATTAT.

(These acronym games are so cute.)