Sunday School Teacher Arrested on Molestation Charges (police say he molesting a 12-year-old boy)

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[SkyPilot]

But you, man of God, flee from all this, and pursue righteousness, godliness, faith, love, endurance and gentleness. Fight the good fight of the faith. Take hold of the eternal life to which you were called when you made your good confession in the presence of many witnesses. In the sight of God, who gives life to everything, and of Christ Jesus, who while testifying before Pontius Pilate made the good confession, I charge you 14to keep this command without spot or blame until the appearing of our Lord Jesus Christ, which God will bring about in his own time--God, the blessed and only Ruler, the King of kings and Lord of lords, who alone is immortal and who lives in unapproachable light, whom no one has seen or can see. To him be honor and might forever. Amen.

1 Timothy 6: 11-16

[restornu]

Dear Script

I know that is what you beleive, but I believe that the God of the Bible is the Same God in the Book of Mormon!

Pay attention all of the LDS know that you folks feel it is NOT the same Jesus, but that is for you to deal with! We know different! There is nothing to get across!

When I attend Church on Sunday the presents of the Holy Spirit is so gentle and sweet!

[CARepubGal]

You are a really mean, abusive person. You do not reflect Jesus at all. Praise God I left your cult before I married a man who thought like that. My last boyfriend was athiest but he had a basline decency Mormons appear to lack. Kind of ironic isn't it! And I would rather be an old spinster than married to some cult. Mormon temple marriages commit the couple to the CHURCH not each other BTW. I find that so very sad.

[CARepubGal]

Mormon Love is not the same as Christian love or Jewish love but it resembles Wahabi Islam way too much for my comfort.

[scripter]

I believe that the God of the Bible is the Same God in the Book of Mormon!

I know you believe that. The problem as we see it, is that Mormon doctrine doesn't match the Bible and we hold the Bible as the ultimate authority. Jesus cannot be the one and only Son of God and at the same time have Lucifer as a brother.

[restornu]

God created all Spirits, so that makes all of us sisters and brothers. In the beganning the Lord ask who do His will, and Lucifer said, I will and not lose one soul. for all were to comply with OUT choice. But Jesus said he would do the WILL of the Heavenly Father and give all of the glory to God! So Jesus was annointed and was the only begotten Son of God! Lucifer the rebellious spirit was vanish from Heaven after Archangle Micheal won the war in Heaven!

At that time all were spirit children! Lucifer/Satan is still and evil spirit, and is dismembered as being relative.

Lucifer in that state would have been brother to all spirits before being disinherited!

This proud and prideful rebellious spirit lost it all,and is no longer relavent! This all took place in the beganning of time!

This knowledge is like a bit of trivia, and is really insignificant in the scheme of things. I always appreciate a presptive or a timeline of events. An many have no importance on one Salvation

[Wrigley]

Rest, your comment was out of the blue and had nothing to do with the context of the discussion. I believe you said it out of anger and frustration. I believe that you needed to lash out at me since you think I am fanning the flames of other posters against you.

And, I also believe that you know you shouldn't have brought that up in this discussion. But because of these discussions, you are constantly in defend mode, so even when you know you did the wrong thing, you can't bring yourself up to admit it. You post a response privately, and publically rationalizing what you wrote. Trying to explain it. Like Trent Lott, that response only hurts you.

What would have been more appropriate would have you saying that "I was wrong when I posted my response to Wrigley. I shouldn't have let my frustration get in the way of a response. I am sorry for posting it."

rest, you know me. I have done the same on a couple of occasions with posts to you. And to other people on the forum. Can you do the same?

[AppyPappy]

Since we are off topic. Does anyone know anything about car radios in a 1995 Lincoln?

[Mamzelle]

re: exposed him)))

He didn't have anything to expose other than some offenses unrelated to his strong suspicions. I think he did the proactive thing at expense to himself...I can tell you that it's hard to work in a bar without getting into legal hot water at some point, which is why I didn't work in one very long! The tips were sure good for putting hubby through, however. I think the scoutmaster was acting more on his gut than the arrest record.

[Wrigley]

It's amazing what some will defend and support.

[drstevej]

***God created all Spirits, so that makes all of us sisters and brothers. In the beganning the Lord ask who do His will, and Lucifer said, I will and not lose one soul. for all were to comply with OUT choice. But Jesus said he would do the WILL of the Heavenly Father and give all of the glory to God! So Jesus was annointed and was the only begotten Son of God! Lucifer the rebellious spirit was vanish from Heaven after Archangle Micheal won the war in Heaven!***

So Jesus wasn't always God, He is a created spirit like Lucifer and the rest of us. God liked His gameplan and annointed Him making Him special.

Restornu, this is not Christianity, it is heresy. You need to repent of your spirit-brother-of-Lucifer-Jesus and put your trust in the biblical Jesus, the Alpha and Omega.

[drstevej]

***What would have been more appropriate would have you saying that "I was wrong when I posted my response to Wrigley. I shouldn't have let my frustration get in the way of a response. I am sorry for posting it." ***

Wrigley is graciously offering you an opportunity to do the right thing.

[P-Marlowe]

God created all Spirits, so that makes all of us sisters and brothers.

Are you then saying that God created Jesus?

Is Jesus the creator or was Jesus created?

[restornu]

Wrigley there are times you have said things that are not related. So you want to change this, as I said before I say this to all young man, you are not the only one there some who I work with and I remind them the imporants of building memories, I am old enough to be your grandmother.

It seem you folks are the one, you want to take whatever one says, and make something out of it! Do as you please!

[scripter]

So Jesus wasn't always God, He is a created spirit like Lucifer and the rest of us...Restornu, this is not Christianity, it is heresy.

Indeed it is.

Mormon leaders teach that Jesus is our elder brother who progressed to become a god

• Milton R. Hunter: "Jesus became a God and reached His great state of understanding through consistent effort and continuous obedience to all the Gospel truths and universal laws" (The Gospel Through the Ages, p.51).
• Bruce McConkie states: "Christ the Word, the Firstborn, had of course attained unto the status of Godhood while yet in pre-existence" (What Mormons Think of Christ, p.36).
• Bruce McConkie claimed: "Jesus kept the commandments of his Father and thereby worked out his own salvation, and also set an example as to the way and the means whereby all men may be saved" (The Mortal Messiah, Vol.4, p.434).
• McConkie continues: "He [Jesus] is the Firstborn of the Father. By obedience and devotion to the truth he attained that pinnacle of intelligence which ranked him as a God, as the Lord Omnipotent, while yet in his pre-existent state" (Mormon Doctrine, p. 129).

 

The Bible states that Jesus has existed as God eternally. Here are a few of many verses stating this:

• "In the beginning was the Word... the Word was God… the Word became flesh and dwelt among us" John 1:1,14).
• "But of the Son He [God] says, ‘Thy Throne O God is forever and ever’" (Heb. 1:8).
• "Christ Jesus, who although He existed in the form of God, did not regard equality with God a thing to be grasped" (Phil. 2:6).
• "glorify me together with Thyself Father, with the glory which I ever had with Thee before the world was" (John 17:5).
• "God...has in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds" (Heb. 1:2).

[scripter]

Thanks for the information.

This knowledge is like a bit of trivia, and is really insignificant in the scheme of things. I always appreciate a presptive or a timeline of events. An many have no importance on one Salvation.

The trivia you posted did not come from the Bible - it's just not there, so what is the origin of the trivia? Not only is it not in the Bible, the "trivia" is in direct contradiction to the Bible.

[restornu]

SPIRIT The word spirit is used in several ways in the scriptures. Probably the basic use has to do with the conscious intelligent individual entity that had an existence previous to mortality. That is, all forms of living things - man, beast, and vegetation - existed as individual spirits, before any form of life existed upon the earth. The spirit is in the likeness of the physical body, as demonstrated in Gen. 2: 5; 1 Ne. 11: 11; Ether 3: 15-16; D&C 77: 2; 129; Moses 3: 4-7. Furthermore, all spirit is matter, but is more refined and pure than mortal element (D&C 131: 7).

Every person is literally a son or a daughter of God, having been born as a spirit to Heavenly Parents previous to being born to mortal parents on the earth (cf. Heb. 12: 9). Thus each on of us is a dual being: an immortal spirit body, clothed with a body of flesh and bone. As defined in scripture, the spirit and the body constitute the mortal soul (D&C 88: 15; cf. Gen. 2: 7; Moses 3: 7-9; Abr. 5: 7). A spirit can live independent of a body, but the body cannot live without the spirit (cf. James 2: 26). In the resurrection, the immortal spirit is reunited with the same body of flesh and bone it possessed as a mortal, with two major differences: The union will be permanent, and the body will not be subject to aging and death.

Steve (Lucifer name was light bearer before he fell from heaven!)
1- was not Lucifer originaly a part of the spirit family? Yes
2- Was not Lucifer part of the Mornings stars? Yes
3- When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy? Job 38:7
4- In job was not he a part of those who shouted for joy? Yes
5- Was Lucifer not vanished from heaven and dismembered? Yes
6- will Lucifer received a resurrect body? NO!
7- Jesus Heavenly Father,is also the Father of our spirits? Yes
8- Jesus is the only Begotten! Yes
Rev.22
16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.

[drstevej]

So Jesus and Lucifer were spirit brothers? (Check one)

___ Yes
___ No
___ I'd rather not answer this on grounds that it might be embarassing.

[restornu]

SPIRIT The word spirit is used in several ways in the scriptures. Probably the basic use has to do with the conscious intelligent individual entity that had an existence previous to mortality. That is, all forms of living things - man, beast, and vegetation - existed as individual spirits, before any form of life existed upon the earth. The spirit is in the likeness of the physical body, as demonstrated in Gen. 2: 5; 1 Ne. 11: 11; Ether 3: 15-16; D&C 77: 2; 129; Moses 3: 4-7. Furthermore, all spirit is matter, but is more refined and pure than mortal element (D&C 131: 7).

Every person is literally a son or a daughter of God, having been born as a spirit to Heavenly Parents previous to being born to mortal parents on the earth (cf. Heb. 12: 9). Thus each on of us is a dual being: an immortal spirit body, clothed with a body of flesh and bone. As defined in scripture, the spirit and the body constitute the mortal soul (D&C 88: 15; cf. Gen. 2: 7; Moses 3: 7-9; Abr. 5: 7). A spirit can live independent of a body, but the body cannot live without the spirit (cf. James 2: 26). In the resurrection, the immortal spirit is reunited with the same body of flesh and bone it possessed as a mortal, with two major differences: The union will be permanent, and the body will not be subject to aging and death.

Steve (Lucifer name was light bearer before he fell from heaven!)
1- was not Lucifer originaly a part of the spirit family? Yes
2- Was not Lucifer part of the Mornings stars? Yes
3- When the morning stars sang together, and all the sons of God shouted for joy? Job 38:7
4- In job was not he a part of those who shouted for joy? Yes
5- Was Lucifer not vanished from heaven and dismembered? Yes
6- will Lucifer received a resurrect body? NO!
7- Jesus Heavenly Father,is also the Father of our spirits? Yes
8- Jesus is the only Begotten Son of God! Yes

Rev.22
16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.

[restornu]

The name means the Shining One or Lightbearer. He is also known as the Son of the Morning. Lucifer was a spirit son of Heavenly Father and led the rebellion in the premortal life. The name Lucifer appears only once in the Bible (Isa. 14: 12). Latter-day revelation gives more detail on Lucifer’s fall (D&C 76: 25-29).

Lucifer fell in the premortal existence, Isa. 14: 12 (Luke 10: 18; 2 Ne. 24: 12). After his fall he became Satan and the devil, D&C 76: 25-29 (Moses 4: 1-4).

***

Rev.22
16 I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.