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Allah and the Real-World-Order
The fivedoves.com ^ | Oct2002 | John Tng

Posted on 11/19/2002 6:47:42 PM PST by Podkayne

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Is this believable?
1 posted on 11/19/2002 6:47:42 PM PST by Podkayne
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To: Podkayne
ping
2 posted on 11/19/2002 6:55:01 PM PST by Arkie2
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To: Podkayne; 2sheep; Thinkin' Gal; RnMomof7; Jeremiah Jr; dennisw
Is this believable?

Yep.

3 posted on 11/19/2002 7:05:28 PM PST by Sir Gawain
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To: Sir Gawain; monkeyshine; ipaq2000; Lent; veronica; Sabramerican; beowolf; Nachum; BenF; angelo; ...
"Arafat’s true goal is dictated by the Koran. His goal is not the secular liberation of an ethnic minority. His goal is not a miniature nation-state. His goal is the goal of Islam. His goal is to destroy any non-Muslim power that gains a foothold in dar-al-Islam."

 


4 posted on 11/19/2002 7:15:50 PM PST by dennisw
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To: dennisw; All; Texaggie79

5 posted on 11/19/2002 7:23:38 PM PST by BrooklynGOP
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To: Sir Gawain; Thinkin' Gal; Prodigal Daughter; shaggy eel; babylonian; Fred Mertz; ...
Yes, this is believable.

 Great Babylon: The Cry of the Watchman - Homepage - a short book

 Allah and the Real-World-Order
 The White Horseman of the Apocalypse
 Turkey and the Beast

Above are all the links by the author.  I have read everything I can find by him.  He has some fascinating concepts from history which should seriously adjust ideas people have about who the two beasts are.  He indicates that Great Babylon has been set up for an ambush.  Great Babylon obviously is America.  I disagree with his contention that Russia is insignificant.  Rather, the following two are Must Read links  Right click on our homepage for more d/v.  I've added more.

 Dream - Surprise attack - posted 15 Oct 02

 Red Alert! - 9 Aug 02 - Billy Blankenship

6 posted on 11/19/2002 7:27:24 PM PST by 2sheep
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To: dennisw
So the United States—the standard bearer of the republican worldview (the belief that all titles of nobility, of right, ought to be outlawed)—is willing in the twenty-first century to support the creation of a royal crown in Iraq.

This will come back to haunt us Dennis..it is a MAJOR error MAJOR

7 posted on 11/19/2002 7:57:58 PM PST by RnMomof7
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To: Podkayne; 2sheep; Jeremiah Jr; babylonian; Dallas; crystalk; Light Speed
Is this believable? <<<

We are now being told that Jordanian King Abdullah is the west’s only true Muslim ally in the Middle East.

2 Thessalonians 2:9-12

9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders,
10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved.
11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:
12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

8 posted on 11/19/2002 8:36:39 PM PST by Thinkin' Gal
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The evil one takes hold and grows. May God have mercy on us.
9 posted on 11/19/2002 10:32:34 PM PST by MarMema
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To: dennisw
Arafat is interested only in himself. If he pretends to be in favor of the Khilafa, it is only to drum up support.
10 posted on 11/20/2002 12:14:18 AM PST by xm177e2
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To: Podkayne
Read about the The Signs of Qiyamah.

A descendent of Muhammed is predicted by the Hadith to raise an army which will destroy the Dajjalic System (us) and establish Islam as the only religion. Jesus returns and fights at his side to help. Everyone is either converted or killed.

FR thread on the Army of the Mahdi.

11 posted on 11/20/2002 12:53:19 AM PST by Dajjal
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To: Thinkin' Gal
bttt
12 posted on 11/20/2002 7:14:36 AM PST by Fred Mertz
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To: Podkayne; 2sheep; Bobby777
Leviticus 24:11
And the Israelite woman's son blasphemed the name of the LORD and cursed; and so they brought him to Moses. (His mother's name was Shelomith the daughter of Dibri, of the tribe of Dan.)...

Genesis 49:17 Dan shall be a serpent by the way, A viper by the path, That bites the *horse's heels So that its rider shall fall backward.

Judges 5:17 Gilead abode beyond Jordan: and why did Dan remain in ships? Asher continued on the sea shore, and abode in his breaches.

*horse, See: Rev. 9:7

13 posted on 11/20/2002 8:23:59 AM PST by Jeremiah Jr
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To: 2sheep
Thanks. I sent this to my son. Hope he has time to read this article and to check out your links.
14 posted on 11/20/2002 12:31:35 PM PST by JudyB1938
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To: Thinkin' Gal; All
From the Book of Jubilee's...

"On the day that Isaac..the father of Jacob and Esau died...the SONS OF ESAU heard that Isaac had given Jacob.. "The Portion of the Elder".

alot of verses basically conveying this point next....The Sons Of Esau..confront him and demand an explantation as to why HE HAS LOST..the Elders portions.
Esau tries to bargain with them..this is their reply:

"We shall not hearken unto thee..to make peace with him[Ya'a kov..Jacob]...for our strength is greater than his strength..and we are more powerfull than he...
we shall go against him ..and slay him,and destroy him[ISRAEL]..AND HIS SONS...[America..Canada..Great Britian...Australia]...

and get this!!!..
"And if you will not go with us...WE SHALL DO HARM TO THEE!"

The next texts find them threating Esau..and then driving him to pledge....
The other nations are contacted..and mercinaries are drawn..and paid for..[Isnt that intertesting!]...Aram...Philistie..Moab...Ammon.

While all this is taking place...guess what Jacobs doing.?
He's mourning the death of Leah..his first wife.
He is unaware of the entire enterprise until the last minute..as others see Esau and the mercinaries coming up.

Where does this all take place....hold on folks...

Hebron !!
Esau and his army appear...Jacob is in a tower looking down at Esau..and the banter begins...and its all about oaths made..Jacob tires to get Esau to stand by his oath made earlier on.
Esau basically renegs on the entire framework..
goes thur a diatribe of..if animals can shed their spots then I will remember the oath and blah blah...basically ..Esau says theirs no mechanism on this planet to be seen which can change my descision..to kill you!

Judah now speaks up..and chides his father Jacob to kill Esau rigth now..right there!

Jacob pulls his bow back..and puts an arrow into Esau's right breast..and slew him!
Then Judah and the clans swept forth ..and slaughtered the rest on the field..coming down on them from the higher ground.

This is what really happened folks.... It is also a prophetic story...and has spiritual meaning...which will see its dualistic reality appear again.
36 AND 72.....Ha Shem passed between the Halves...while Avraham slept..
Ha'Shem was a Fire.

15 posted on 11/20/2002 2:07:55 PM PST by Light Speed
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To: Light Speed
BUMP for wakefulness and watchfulness.
16 posted on 11/21/2002 1:36:26 AM PST by happygrl
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bttt
17 posted on 11/21/2002 8:19:53 AM PST by bigaln2
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To: Light Speed
The parallels between the nation of islam and the Christian world should interest everyone. It is a matter of belief and perception as to which is based on truth. One thing is for sure, The return on the promised Savior of the World, will be a pivotal event in both worlds, and will result in a significant population drop for the two groups.
18 posted on 11/23/2002 4:10:40 AM PST by wita
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10 horns bump
19 posted on 11/23/2002 4:33:29 PM PST by the-ironically-named-proverbs2
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>The parallels between the nation of islam and the Christian world should interest everyone.

True Christians worship the G~d of the Bible and are aligned with Jews.  Muslims worship Allah who is Satan.  That is not a parallel.  Those are pole opposites.

20 posted on 11/23/2002 8:44:32 PM PST by 2sheep
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