Uncharitable? Divisive? Strident? [PRIDEFUL???]: Recovering the Art of Christian Polemics

New Oxford Review ^ | October 2002 | David Mills

[RnMomof7]

p.s. Remember, denial aint just a river in Egypt.

But it do run through here :>)

[Joshua]

"Does not scripture say we will become like him? Are we not part of the body of Christ? Mystery still does exist. "

We can become like Jesus in nature not in being. The only one I recall in scripture thinking he could become like God was Satan.

You believe that Mary must have theomniscient power of God to hear all prayers in all languages and yet claim you don't worship her.

Very interesting concept.

[Ronly Bonly Jones]

You believe that Mary must have theomniscient power of God to hear all prayers in all languages and yet claim you don't worship her.>>>

Well, you DO get a major net bandwidth upgrade when you're promoted to the Queen of Heaven, Josh.

[rdb3]

>> Did you ever ask Him if it was OK to do that?

> He listens to His Mom!

[rdb3]

Why? Did Peter's belief in God falter?

He denied Christ three times before the rooster crowed, didn't he?

Let the blow fall, I await its coming.

[american colleen]

He denied him - he didn't stop believing.

I've denied him probably thousands of times (I say with a sick feeling in my stomach)... doesn't mean a faltering belief.

For a moment there I felt like I must be on crack cocaine or something... I couldn't remember posting this stuff at all and then I looked at the date... what made you drudge up this thread?

[Joshua]

"Well, you DO get a major net bandwidth upgrade when you're promoted to the Queen of Heaven, Josh. "

Really? Care to point me to some reference that backs up this claim of yours?

Only God is omniscient,omnipotent, and omnipresent. This is one of the reasons why he and he alone is to be worshipped.

Now if you can give me some biblical reference showing anyone else has been given the attributes of God, and deserves worship, I'll stand corrected.

BTW, do you normally answer posts that are 3 months old? Slow reader I take it.8-)

[Ronly Bonly Jones]

Care to point me to some reference that backs up this claim of yours?>>

Not really necessary. You'll see soon enough.

Or at least I should hope so.

[Joshua]

If I were you I'd be hoping too...8-)

In the future it might be a wise thing to have a fact or two backing what you say. I know it's a minor detail but it wouldn't hurt...

[Joshua]

Here's a thought. Before you answer me why don't you pray to your queen of heaven for the answer. I'm sure if she's busy answering other prayers she has some kind of answering service. Leave a message i'm sure she'll get back to you.

If she doesn't,and I don't hear from you, rest assured I won't think any less of your icons

[Ronly Bonly Jones]

Leave a message i'm sure she'll get back to you.>>

She always has. She always will. "0 Mary, health of the sick, pray for us! 0 Mary, conceived without sin,
pray for us who have recourse to Thee!"

The only people who don't have recourse to her are those who despise her or don't believe in what Sacred Tradition says about her.

Besides, if you're looking for scripture, what part of "all generations shall call me blessed" don't you understand?

[Joshua]

" 1 Tim 2:5 5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; (KJV) "

Seems a little stupid to go through Mary when I have direct access to Christ

" Mark 7:13 13 Thus you nullify the word of God by your tradition that you have handed down. And you do many things like that." (NIV) "

So much for your tradition.

And how does being called blessed by all generations elevate you to a level of a god to be worshipped? Quite a stretch of the words boss.

End it here. Your apologetics are old and tired. I followed the catholic faith for 30 years.I know all your buzz words. Spare me, I get bored easily

[MarMema]

For a moment there I felt like I must be on crack cocaine or something... I couldn't remember posting this stuff at all and then I looked at the date..

ROFL!!! Me too.

[Ronly Bonly Jones]

" Mark 7:13 13 Thus you nullify the word of God by your tradition that you have handed down. And you do many things like that." (NIV) ">>>

He was speaking to the Pharisees, not to the Church of his own founding, heretic. Be silent and repent.

(I don't really talk like that, except to self-important jackasses who think they know more about Christianity than the very Church from which their tiny little schard of a splinter group derives and who presume to tell us what the truth is.)

[Ronly Bonly Jones]

I followed the catholic faith for 30 years>>

Then you have no excuse and will be held fully accountable. Your ignorance is not invincible but wilful and shall be weighed against you in full on the day of Judgment.

[Ronly Bonly Jones]

" 1 Tim 2:5 5 For there is one God, and one mediator between God and men, the man Christ Jesus; (KJV) "
Seems a little stupid to go through Mary when I have direct access to Christ>>

Actually, it's pretty cool. A Catholic has access to BOTH. What are you missing out on?