Posted on 11/06/2002 1:47:26 PM PST by drstevej
Yes it does, thank you! I'd just not heard of anyone breaking faith down like that. Your words are wise!
So it has been "softened " but is is a curse on the reformers and the former RC's .
CANON I.-If any one saith, that man may be justified before God by his own works, whether done through the teaching of human nature, or that of the law, without the grace of God through Jesus Christ; let him be anathema.
anathema
a·nath·e·ma Pronunciation Key (-nth-m)
n. pl. a·nath·e·mas
1. A formal ecclesiastical ban, curse, or excommunication.
2. A vehement denunciation; a curse: the sound of a witch's anathemas in some unknown tongue (Nathaniel Hawthorne)
. 3. One that is cursed or damned. 4. One that is greatly reviled, loathed, or shunned: Essentialisma belief in natural, immutable sex differencesis anathema to postmodernists, for whom sexuality itself, along with gender, is a social construct (Wendy Kaminer).
------------------------------------------------------------------------ [Late Latin anathema, doomed offering, accursed thing, from Greek, from anatithenai, anathe-, to dedicate : ana-, ana- + tithenai, to put; see dh- in Indo-European Roots.]
anathema \A*nath"e*ma\, n.; pl. Anathemas. [L. anath?ma, fr. Gr. ? anything devoted, esp. to evil, a curse; also L. anath?ma, fr. Gr. ? a votive offering; all fr. ? to set up as a votive gift, dedicate; ? up + ? to set. See Thesis.]
1. A ban or curse pronounced with religious solemnity by ecclesiastical authority, and accompanied by excommunication. Hence: Denunciation of anything as accursed. [They] denounce anathemas against unbelievers. --Priestley.
2. An imprecation; a curse; a malediction. Finally she fled to London followed by the anathemas of both [families]. --Thackeray.
3. Any person or thing anathematized, or cursed by ecclesiastical authority.
The Jewish nation were an anathema destined to destruction. St. Paul . .
1Jo 1:9 If we confess our sins, he is faithful and just to forgive us [our] sins, and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness.
Hbr 1:3 Who being the brightness of [his] glory, and the express image of his person, and upholding all things by the word of his power, when he had by himself purged our sins, sat down on the right hand of the Majesty on high;
Hbr 12:2 Looking unto Jesus the author and finisher of [our] faith; who for the joy that was set before him endured the cross, despising the shame, and is set down at the right hand of the throne of God.
Luther wrote (Weimar ed.vol 2, p. 371; Letters I, "Luther's Works," American ed. vol 48, p. 282: "Be a sinner and sin boldly, but believe and rejoice in Christ even more boldly.... No sin will separate us from the Lamb, even though we commit fornication and murder a thousand times a day."
(1 Cor 6:19) we are the temples of the Holy Spirit! Will the Holy Spirit dwell in total corruption? Or will absolute Holiness join Himself to total corruption after death?
We are cleansed continually by the blood of Christ codie..
Hbr 10:12 But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sins for ever, sat down on the right hand of God;
Hbr 7:25 Wherefore he is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them
Tts 3:5 Not by works of righteousness which we have done, but according to his mercy he saved us, by the washing of regeneration, and renewing of the Holy Ghost;
He has purged our sin..codie IN Him we are Justified and righteous
So Luther was correct?
All of this seems to beg the question..but it is actually the answer
We are saved by the righteousness of Christ not our own .But when we are regenerated we get a new heart and a re engineered will that hates sin and loves God.We desire God..and desire NOT to sin. But as Paul said we often do what we do not want to do..and yes that is covered by the blood of Christ
What is the difficulty in understanding the question that made you ask it again, though I had clearly answered it? ~ SoothingDave
It's just that little part after you answered where you then asked: "Am I right?" Therefore, just to make absolutely sure, let me ask the question this way:
Does God justify those who are destitute of reverential awe towards God, condemning God, impious? Does God justify any of these people?
Probably because you don't teach that the cheesecake is freely available for anyone who wants it. Rather your god refuses service to certain people, arbitrarily. ~ SoothingDave
No, I just said "The cheesecake is freely available for anybody who wants it." Why would you want to accuse me of not believing exactly what I just said I do believe?
The cheesecake is freely available for anybody who wants it. Unfortunately:
And no one, having feasted on rib eyes desires cheesecake; for he says, "I'm stuffed from the rib eyes."
Therefore, why should you complain if you are not offered cheesecake?
You never answered this question:
Sure you are [saving yourself when you use the tools that the Physician has graciously provided]! Who gets to boast, the paddles or the one who shocks the heart back to life? ~ theAmbassador
You never answered this question:
Sure you are [saving yourself when you use the tools that the Physician has graciously provided]! Who gets to boast, the paddles or the one who shocks the heart back to life? ~ theAmbassador
Salvation is a free gift. You say some do not want it... doesn't "want" denote free will? ~ american colleenNo, it doesn't. It only denotes a will which is bound to the desire not to have "cheesecake [salvation].
I don't believe that I can save anybody, God does the saving, He also calls us all, some accept, some don't, pretty simple to me. ~ BigMack
God may only act with permission from man in your scheme. Sovereignty in salvation belongs to man, not God. God cannot save anybody without man. At the very best, your scheme of salvation is not a salvation by the grace of God, but a salvation by man in his use of God's grace. You reduce God to a Mr. Goodwrench who only hands out tools for a man to then use to save himself.
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