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Question the Practice of Halloween... Or the Christian Practice of Satanism
The Sir Francis Dashwood Journal
| 10-31-02
| Sir Francis Dashwood
Posted on 10/22/2002 5:11:40 AM PDT by Sir Francis Dashwood
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To: drstevej
It is also my view ...but then I am a heretic and you are my friend:>)
To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
LOL...great graphics
To: Irisshlass
Your scripture makes my point well Thank You . There is no righteousness in sacraments ..or in good Works.
Rom 4:1 What shall we say then that Abraham our father, as pertaining to the flesh, hath found?
Rom 4:2 For if Abraham were justified by works, he hath [whereof] to glory; but not before God.
Rom 4:3 For what saith the scripture? Abraham believed God, and it was counted unto him for righteousness.
Rom 4:4 Now to him that worketh is the reward not reckoned of grace, but of debt.
This is what I have been saying for a long time...Paul used Abraham to the Jews because the Jews believed he was Justified because of his righteousness. NO Paul is telling them...that is NOT true,for if it were God would be Abrahams debtor..owing him grace because of his obedience
To: Catholicguy
<> Yes. I did my penance. I always do whenever I go to Confession.<>
Ahhh but no repentance...:>) Your penance does not count...
To: sitetest
Put a wig on him and it's me:>)
To: Catholicguy
That just makes sense. Rnmom0f7 and drstevej says it applies to them and all their works.Never said that ..What is not of faith is sin...man made, man pleasing work intended to impress God or men or win the approval of men are filthy rags to God..works of Faith are a sweet thing to God..He takes great pleasure in works that grow out of what he puts in the heart of men
To: RnMomof7
Dear RnMomof7,
I'm glad, I suppose, that you find BM's graphics amusing.
My own view isn't quite the same.
sitetest
To: RnMomof7; sitetest; Catholicguy
Put a wig on him and it's me:>) Say it ain't so Mom.
Oh, is that Catholicguy with ya?
RnMomof7
:)
BigMack
To: RnMomof7
Thats a superficial look...not your picture...lol...but the scripture you posted...I'm busy now..will get back...*grin*
To: sitetest
I do not take FR graphics too seriously..Many aimed directly at me by less than 'friendly" posters usually make me LOL..
I like the people of FR..even the ones I wrestle with on the Religious forum..We are all pilgrims on a spiritual journey.We would not fight so hard if we did not care. I like you and poly and Irish and salvation and NY'er etc. EVEN CG..We can all freep the dems together and go for coffee.
Mack has a funny site somewhere..and at some point when he wants to hit the Calvinists one may come my way...I hope I have a sense of humor about it
To: RnMomof7; sitetest
Mack has a funny site somewhere..and at some point when he wants to hit the Calvinists one may come my way...I hope I have a sense of humor about itA Hyper Calvinist hyperventilating in a hot water bottle.
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:)
BigMack
To: RnMomof7
You can laugh without me.
To: RnMomof7
There is no righteousness in sacraments ..or in good Works.
The works that Paul refers to as did Christ...was Jewish law...
Look at Gal 2...works of law was in reference to Peter not eating with uncircumcised people...and when he says justified by faith...he doesn't say faith alone...nowhere does he reference the sacraments that Christ instituted...
To: PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
LOL...
To: Irisshlass
The whole OT was the "law" remember the handwashing etc. I believe out of the ten commandments came something like 660 laws I think.
The Jews did not like being told they could not earn heaven by human works..and sacraments are human works.. any thing YOU do to earn Gods grace or the approval of God or man is a work...it is the the same as "law keeping"
There is nothing you can do to earn righteousness..that come only through grace faith in the finished work of Jesus Christ
To: drstevej
[1] A believer's work produced by grace is not a filthy rag.
I'm glad we agree on this one.
[2] A believer's self effort does get burned in the judgment.
If by "self-effort", you mean effort that is not motivated by grace, then we can agree on this one.
[3] A believer's efforts done to impress men likewise perish.
Definitely agree on this one.
[4] All efforts of unbelievers are filthy rags.
What about the unbeliever's efforts to comprehend the truth? "Lord I believe, help my unbelief."??
Or more specifically, at what point do you see grace as being operative in the unbeliever - if at all?
To: Tantumergo
I'm glad your here..I would be here all night...typing..
To: Irisshlass
You are better at scripture than he is..do not sell yourself short girl
To: Tantumergo
***What about the unbeliever's efforts to comprehend the truth? "Lord I believe, help my unbelief."??***
Mark 9:23 - Are you sure this man is an unbeliever? Looking at it in context I don't think his spiritual condition is easy to determine.
***Or more specifically, at what point do you see grace as being operative in the unbeliever - if at all?***
Unbelievers are all recipients of God's common (yet non-salvific) grace. The elect unbeliever is drawn by the Spirit of God and regenerated by Him. The non elect unbeliever is not drawn and regenerated by the Holy Spirit. He rejects the gospel message because he is spiritually dead.
I believe that regeneration precedes faith, not temporally (both are instantaneous) but logically or causally.
To: RnMomof7
I'm selling myself short..I'm running on fumes...I would have to type alot of scripture to refute what your saying...
Mom..its not a one shot deal...the demons believe who Christ is...and look where they are...you and others actually scare me...because several times debating I see you stop...and I think maybe...not sure...but it scares me...that God has blinded you...He actually has blinded you...and fearing God I pray He won't blind me...to have a faith as yours...I wouldn't have one...I don't understand how you and others can walk away from Christ word's unless you eat and drink my blood you have no life in you, you will not raised up, no eternal life...Our awsome God who created the Univerise, our world, and every creature wants to dwell in us, unite with our souls and give Himself to us...not just on the Cross...but for all times...everyday...Your faith is one in bondage...God put us here to freely choose Him...If it was all done on the cross what is the point of us being here? spoiled kids whose parents do it all...
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