Posted on 09/30/2002 9:19:01 AM PDT by PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain
You would think that by now I would have known that what I said would be misunderstood, lol! However, thank you for your words of encouragement. God never desired for us to have a relationship with Him only within the confines of humanly constructed beliefs, but if you try telling that to some people, well, you might as well be burned at the stake for such heresy.
Yes. And for Israel he chose the Kohenim.
Since Melchizanek preceeded all your Levites and Kohanim, his order of the priesthood takes precedence
Since the Sinaitic Covenant preceded your "new covenant", it takes precedence.
and as Christians we believe that Christ is our great high priest after the order of Melchizadek.
That's fine, believe whatever you want. If your mother is Jewish, though, it would trouble me if you believed that Jesus is God.
Christ's spirit, which is the spirit of God, takes precedence over his earthly birth, whatever his line of descent is.
So the Hebrew scriptures can just be tossed out the window?
You do not fool me. Just from our little interchange I know that you neither read the Word nor understand it. The fact that you confuse the virgin birth with a human woman proves to me that you have not been to school. So long. I suggest you get offline pronto and hit the books.
Earlier on this thread, Jesse made the claim that he is of Jewish ancestry. He hasn't clarified whether or not his mother is Jewish.
Second, he professes to be a Christian, and according to his own moral standard bearing false witness is wrong.
Third, establishing courts of justice is one of the Seven Laws of Noah that are binding on all mankind. Subsidiary to this is that false witness is wrong.
Thoroughly.
Have you taken instruction in them, or have you just assumed Hebrew identity to be contrary?
What an odd accusation to make. Look junior, I've been on this board for almost five years. You are welcome to inquire with any of the other regulars as to my bona fides.
A Jew is more than being born of mother and father -- if you were one, you'd know that. It's more than physical, but a spiritual identity.
Not either/or but both/and.
You do not fool me. Just from our little interchange I know that you neither read the Word nor understand it.
Uh huh. Another person who thinks that anyone who disagrees with his own particular interpretation of scripture must be ignorant. You're mighty free with passing judgment on someone that you don't even know.
The fact that you confuse the virgin birth with a human woman proves to me that you have not been to school.
I gave my reasons. If you think that I am wrong, refute me. Go on, give it a try. Otherwise you are all hat, no cattle.
So long. I suggest you get offline pronto and hit the books.
And I suggest you read more and post less. You display an astonishing level of presumption.
Really? Show me. I'm looking for world peace, universal knowledge of God, return of all the Jews to Israel, and the rebuilt temple. I don't see them anywhere. The throne of David remains empty at this time, your spiritualization of concrete prophecies nonwithstanding.
I suggest you reread it. ponyespresso made no equivalency between pagan belief and belief in the God of Abraham.
The commandment against idolatry is one of the seven laws. However, the standard as applied for what constitutes idolatry is not the same. Unless you are a forthright tritheist, you are not an idolator. Trinitarian Christians believe in one God (one Being); they are just confused as to how many persons He is. So it is still monotheistic, although not as cleanly so as one finds in Judaism.
Well what was I thinking!? Of course you now have a degree in something from FR.
To your great relief, I am going. I have a class in Jeremiah. In fact, I have been diligently going to Hebrew school for a long long time. Of course, my education can't compare with the FR degree though. So long, faker.
Please post for everyone exactly where I posted anything even close to suggesting that all baal worship is equal to Christian worship. Here, let me help...
from my post 459: "Now, before I go further I of course need to make the disclaimer that I do not believe that any of these religions will lead a person directly to Jesus Christ and a saving faith in Him."
from my post 475: "First, like I stated in my disclaimer, I don't believe that these will lead a person directly to Jesus Christ (the One True God) and a saving faith in Him. Of course I believe that God Himself has revealed Himself to His creation through various means (i.e. creation itself, Jesus Christ His Son, the Holy Sprit, the Bible as the Word of God, etc...) Not my intention to suggest that world religions contain the "truth"."
Show me exactly where you think I am going astray here. And, if you can't, then stop accusing me of things that simply are not true.
Put up or shut up.
My point, O sanctimonious one, was that people here know me. Your claim that I am "faking" being Jewish is insulting and absurd.
In fact, I have been diligently going to Hebrew school for a long long time.
Uh huh. You claim to be Jewish, and accuse me of faking it. And yet you curiously resist answering a few simple questions. Is your mother Jewish, and what sort of education in Judaism have you had?
So long, faker.
My experience is that people tend to accuse others of the weaknesses that they themselves possess. You were very quick today to accuse me of being a "fake Jew". Which suggests to me that you have some insecurities of your own on this subject.
While you are studying scripture, why don't you look up Deuteronomy 13.
Except that a man is born from above, he cannot even see the kingdom of God. Sorry, but I can't help your blindness.
Very well, you can't show me. I didn't expect you to, given the manner in which you have spiritualized prophecy.
Yes, the Jews in Jerusalem 2000 years ago were looking for the same thing as well.
Yep. They read the scriptures and saw what they literally said.
The problem is that you are ignoring the prophecies about the Messiah's need to suffer for His people.
Isaiah 53 is not a messianic prophecy.
Do you, or do you not, believe in your heart that the trinitarian God you worship is the God of Abraham?
Yes, if you were worshipping Satan then I would consider that idolatrous. But I don't think you are doing so.
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