Pollster says he can't find Christianity transforming lives

Los Angeles Times | Published Sep 28, 2002 | William Lobdell

[PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain]

Ok boys and girls how come after all of our explaning and teaching the the gospel to others this is the out come?

Is it just what God said it would be, the narrow way?

Do you walk the walk (with the power of God thru you) or are you just giving lip service on here, (going to Church on Sunday and then going to hell on Monday?)

How much time do you spend in the Word and prayer?

Are you and I one of these folks, and are just kidding ourselfs?

Do you have a man REALLY called of God as your pastor, that is a strong leader, and has not watered down the gospel?

Is your Church a purpose driven Church, all entertainment, 2 floor shows a day, and then the gospel lite?

BigMack

[PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain]

Hey Mom, woop out your ping list. :)

BigMack

[PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain]

Ping.

BigMack

[RnMomof7]

A Big Mack Ping:>)

[RobbyS]

He's saying that most pastors are wimps. It is certainly true of our bishops.

[ksen]

This is discouraging, although not unexpected, news.

[PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain]

He's saying that most pastors are wimps. It is certainly true of our bishops.

Seems to be true across the board today, we are getting close to total apostasy in the Church.

BigMack

[PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain]

This is discouraging, although not unexpected, news.

Got a date set yet? Have you been practicing rapture jumping? :)

BigMack

[PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain]

Thanks Mom.

BigMack

[CCWoody]

Ok boys and girls how come after all of our explaning and teaching the the gospel to others this is the out come?

Because just like the other day when I quoted to you basic gospel stuff word for word and you called it "spin" and "circular" I don't expect very many professing born-again believers have a clue what the gospel is. A large number of them aren't even saved anyway. They just like the the way it makes them feel.

But, hey, most of what you said makes sense.

[ksen]

No date setting for me thanks. It gives me gas. ;^)

[ksen]

If it ain't changin' your life, you probably don't got it.

[PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain]

Ok Woody, I said your (spin) or take on what the meaning of the gospel was the problem, not the word for word verses.

Peace.

BigMack

[Corin Stormhands]

It gives me gas.

In polite circles, it's called "the vapors." ;-)

[Matchett-PI]

BUMP!!! LOL!!!

[Notwithstanding]

Christians sin and repent until the day they die.
This is news?
Please.

The whole point of being a Chrisitian is that you TRY earnestly to amend your life to be in accord with the ways of God. When you thereafter do not achieve perfection (you fall into sin) you understand that God's mercy is available and is the answer.

There is no hypocricy in sinning. It is the lie the left and the atheists use all the time - that a Christian who sins is a hypocrite.

A Christian is a hypocrite when he refuses to cease from his sin, when he fails to acknowledge his sin, or when he loses hope in his Savior and God's mercy. But sinning is no act of hypcricy on its own.

[ksen]

Is it against the "rules" to make cryptic references to some current conversation on an ongoing thread?

BTW, what are you doing over here? Don't let Hair find out.

[al_c]

Here's one Barna research piece that I (unfortunately) agree with. Our country's churches/parishes/synagogues were packed to the gills for the first 3 or so weeks after 9/11. What a thrill it was to see all of those people there! Then what a let down it was to see it slip back to normal or below so quickly. We put so many things before God, even though He told us not to do that.

Yeah, the road is narrow, Mack. And "many are called, but few are chosen." God's mercy knows no bounds, but it's not looking good for mankind in general if we keep up this pace.

[ksen]

This isn't talking about Christians sinning. It is talking about there being NO difference between professing believers and the world.

You are correct that Christians do sin and will sin until they die. But that is no excuse to live like the unsaved around us. If our lives are no different than our unsaved neighbors than what possible reason would they have to investigate Christianity?

[PayNoAttentionManBehindCurtain]

Well then according to what your saying, there are alot of back slidden Christians or baby Christians out there, that have not grown up in the Lord, I don't mean even grown up Christians will never sin, we all sin and will till the day we die, but if we grow up in the Lord, it will be less and less, not more and more, but as the article states, the blame could be because of weak leaderless preachers in the pulpits.

BigMack