Posted on 08/06/2002 5:10:58 PM PDT by nickcarraway
Well, based on their erroneous remarks about Fr. Abbott, as provided to us by ultima ratio, it's hard for me to get excited about their level of scholarship.
I'm glad to hear that they weren't so dishonest as to manufacture a quote. But their interpretation of Fr. Abbott's footnote was so wide of the mark that it is small consolation.
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They are NUTZ. Both of them. They are unreliable. I ahve read their distortions for years. What is worse though, is that they are saints compared to Atila Guimares (SP?). This guy is the Mother of all nuts...man oh man.He and his sidekick Marian Horvath make Vlad the Impaler seem like Donahue
You're a kook. You have heard so many alarm bells that your reasoning abilities have been severely damaged. Ultima ratio? No.Ultima retro,yes. Since you don't know what goes on in the Catholic Church except for what your extremist, biggoted sources tell you, you will have to take my word for it that the Koran is not being used in Sunday masses. What harm do you think the pope's goodwill gesture has done to the faithful? Only the the self appointed elite think that the average Catholic can't discern what is legitimate or not. What arrogance you have!
You ascribe infallibilty to this Pope's every statement and gesture, no matter how out of line with past magisteria they are.
Because I'm not in a state of perpetual panic and paranoia, you accuse me of pope worship. All I've said is that I am not qualified to make judgements about his motives and actions. Perhaps if I were a seminary drop out I would be qualified. But I'm not. Who the pope prays beside, what gestures he makes are pretty darn inconsequential to me and my faith. If you are so impressed by the minutiae of the pope maybe it is you who has the worship problem. But I know better. It is your abiding animus that allows you to freak out over such trivia.
Finally, your veiled reference to books on the subject of the supposed anti-semitism regarding of another pope is clearly a reference to the slanders charged against Pius XII, outrageous tissues of lies totally without merit. It shows you to be unknowledgeable regarding scholarship every Catholic should become acquainted with about one of the greatest popes in history, a man hailed as a hero after the war by the Jews themselves. These books by Catholic-bashers which have sprung up ever since his death are deliberate hit-jobs, designed first by the KGB, then by ex-Catholics or Jewish axe-grinders, to sully Pius' pristine reputation and were not based on anything factual. The irony is that no single individual during WWII did more to speak out against the dangers of Nazism or to rescue the Jews themselves than Pius XII.
My point was that John Paul II's reign has been so benevolent and open and he is so well respected by the entire world that criticism of him will be near impposible (I'm excluding your crowd of course). I did't mean to give creedence to the charges that have been leveled against Pius XII. JPII has put a good face on his church, despite the scandals of his inferiors. It's incredible ( not to me )how defensive you become when it is a pre-conciliar pope that is misunderstood. Keep typing. All your inconsistencies, hypocrisies, biases,and inaccuracies (purposeful?) will soon be known to all.
That is your interpretation. Your interpretation has no merit.
Why do you care? Doesn't the SSPX satisfy your religious aspirations? Don't you get the mass the way you want it? What difference does it make to you what the pope does or doesn't do?
No, I'm not, and I don't think you have discussions; just a relentless attack on the catholic church. A discussion would entail listening to others, but the "alarms" have hampered your hearing.
As for the Pope's actions please reread todays epistle.
Stop it. You are embarrassing yourself.
Whatever errors Thomas Woods has made, there is no justification for blaming them on his being a Protestant convert.
Whatever errors Thomas Woods has made, there is no justification for blaming them on his being a Protestant convert. The point made was that a convert thinks he knows more about Catholicsm than the Pope does.
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