Communion in the Hand

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[tiki]

They try to discourage it in my parish. They even went to far as to put a quote from some saint that it was preferable. I wish I could remember who, I was going to save the bulletin but I don't know if I did or not because I sure can't find it.

I didn't even know until recently that you were SUPPOSSED to genuflect. No-one in my parish does it.

[katnip]

If kneeling is a more relaxed position for you, then you are doing it wrong.

Even after all these years of being out of Catholic School, I wouldn't dare lean back on the pew or half sit while kneeling. The nuns would pull your hair out!

[Siobhan]

LOL! We learned that lesson, didn't we!

[SMEDLEYBUTLER]

A tush rester.

[Catholicguy]

Communion in the hand" is a Protestant innovation foisted upon the Catholic world in the name of false ecumenism. The Novus Ordo practice of communion in the hand is rooted in the rejection of the Catholic doctrine on the Holy Eucharist and the denial of the Catholic priesthood.

The Traditio website is run by a nutball who claims to be a priest but will throw you off his list if you ask for evidence he was ordained by a Catholic Bishop.

As William A. Jurgens explained in his notes to "Demurrer against the Heretics" by Tertullian "It is probably a reference to carrying home a particle of the Eucharist for later reception. It appears, then, that Tertullian is saying that if anyone is afraid that his strict fast would be broken by receiving the Eucharist, he need not for that reason remain away from Mass. He can attend the Mass, take the Eucharist home with him, and consume it when the time of the fast is over. Thus he will observe both oblogations; that of participating inthe sacrifice of the Mass, and of keeping the fast on the station days, which were Wednesday and Friday." From "The Faith of the Early Fathers." Tertullian's statement being explicated by Jurgens was, "The Body of the Lord having been received and reserved, each point is secured; both the participation in the sacrifice and the discharge of duty."

[Sock]

The middlemen ( liberal clergy) don't want to follow Rome because they don't want to be bossed around and they have their own ideas.

Having "their own ideas" is disturbing, especially when those ideas may parallel Rahner's.

"In 1966 the late Fr. Karl Rahner stated that "one can no longer maintain today that bread is a substance, as St. Thomas and the Fathers of the Council (of Trent) obviously thought it was".[12] For Rahner, the "substance" of a thing did not include its reality, but the "meaning and purpose" of the thing.[13]

"So, according to Karl Rahner, transubstantiation meant that, after the consecration of the Mass, the physical bread remained physical bread but it now had a new "meaning" of spiritual food because it was now a "symbol" of Jesus Christ.[14]"

MODERN MISCONCEPTIONS ABOUT THE EUCHARIST

[sinkspur]

If kneeling is a more relaxed position for you, then you are doing it wrong.

Were you ever a pre-Vatican II nun?

[Catholicguy]

The Strange case of Traditio and "Rev. M.E. Morrrison"

[Siobhan]

No, but I was blessed to work for many years with a pre-Vatican II nun in Calcutta, India.

[WriteOn]

The Traditio website is run by a nutball who claims to be a priest but will throw you off his list if you ask for evidence he was ordained by a Catholic Bishop. LOL.

Thanks for the heads up.

[WriteOn]

Thank you. I have deep respect for Orthodoxy.

[sinkspur]

Regardless of how much you would like to chose your own particular flavor of "respect," the Church has chosen to make a uniform rule for this particular portion of the Mass, and European or not, if you chose to stand you are in dissent from that rule.

Chill.

[Siobhan]

Whatever you do, don't chill. Keep posting the truth and maybe the heart that has grown cold will warm to the wisdom of Holy Mother Church.

[dadwags]

Re #9
Way to go, colleen!! A large part of the problems in the Church are caused by that sort of tyranny by (probably) dissident teachers .
When he made his first confession, I bet she told him it had to be "face to face", no screen . Probably didn't tell him about that choice, I bet .

[B Knotts]

I remember when the standing thing started in my old parish in Humboldt County, Calif.

Our pastor one week said "We're going to try something new this week..."

...and that was that. I never much cared for it. At my current church, it's about 70% standing, 30% kneeling.

At another nearby church, which is not noticibly otherwise more orthodox, it's 100% kneeling. Go figure.

[Theresa]

I read the essay. Thanks a bunch.

[Theresa]

"You should kneel, if you so desire. We kneel in our parish during the Eucharistic Prayer, and stand from the Our Father on."

The GIRM has been updated by the Bishops and it is going to say:

Kneel during the consecration. Bow your head just before taking communion into your hands. No hand-holding during Lord's prayer, extend arms downward with palms up. The GIRM says everybody is supposed to do the same thing to show our unity. There is nothing in it that says you can kneel OR stand your choice.

[american colleen]

The GIRM has been updated by the Bishops and it is going to say:

Kneel during the consecration. Bow your head just before taking communion into your hands. No hand-holding during Lord's prayer, extend arms downward with palms up. The GIRM says everybody is supposed to do the same thing to show our unity.

Excellent. My parish priest is upset that we (here in the USA) were not allowed by Rome to translate it ourselves from the Latin. Gee, I wonder what Rome was concerned about?

I have heard the GIRM is going to be expensive to purchase... does anyone know if that is true? I'd certainly like a copy. I assume all the Cardinals, Bishops and priests will have one.

[B-Chan]

You guys receive by intinction? That's interesting. Our parish is Anglican Usage as well and we don't do it that way. Our priest places the Sacred Host on our tongues as we kneel at the altar rail, and is followed by a bearer who gives us the Most Precious Blood from the chalice.

Anyway, I'm glad (but not surprised) to see another Anglican Usage church doing so well. People are hungry for the real Roman Catholic church, and our Anglican Use parishes are leading the way back to liturgical dignity and theological orthodoxy. Our little parish is busting at the seams at every Sunday Mass, and even the weekday Masses are starting to fill up. I guess His sheep doknow His voice!

Anglican Usage, Pastoral Provision Catholic bump!

Yours in Christian Fraternity,

B-chan

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[B-Chan]

I would never touch the Lord's pure body with my dirty hand.

Yours in Christian Fraternity,

B-chan

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