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God So Loved The World
http://www.prca.org/pamphlets/pamphlet_52.html ^ | 5/3/02 | Prof. Homer C. Hoeksema

Posted on 05/04/2002 4:43:38 PM PDT by RnMomof7

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To: Codie; OrthodoxPresbyterian
No one cites Boettner anymore.Offer up someone with credibility and we will have a starting point.

Ummm! Did you forget: Name the gospel (5 words) and express the gospel (3 words). After you can do that, then we can begin to have an intelligent discussion about the gospel. Until then, I guess I'll just have to put up with your dismissals....

And you'll just have to be content to let me declare that the non-Calvinist here on FR preach the gospel of the tares and chaff or maybe, the gospel of the Lie of Eden.

81 posted on 05/06/2002 12:45:30 PM PDT by CCWoody
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To: RnMomof7
You were part of the "Amen" corner on that thread.Do you believe what Boettner said?
82 posted on 05/06/2002 12:45:48 PM PDT by Codie
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To: Codie
LOL.Boettner? Try again.

See the problem finding common ground when we do not use the one sure source?

83 posted on 05/06/2002 12:52:35 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: Codie
Actually there are alot of more outragious and less scholarly works around than Boettner Codie :>)) I only know the truth of scripture..
84 posted on 05/06/2002 12:55:41 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7
Actually there are alot of more outragious and less scholarly works around than Boettner

Do you subscribe to them as well? Will you believe anyone who you feel supports you position? Be they lunatic or liar?

85 posted on 05/06/2002 1:26:36 PM PDT by Codie
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To: Codie
Do you subscribe to them as well? Will you believe anyone who you feel supports you position? Be they lunatic or liar?

Codie that is a funny statement...
I am not the one blindly swallowing the musings of men as absolute truth...I left that many years ago!

I have small interest in playing the blame game..my interest is only in telling as many as will hear that God had a plan for Salvation and that plan was that He himself would die for my sins..imagine that . The only one that could absorb the punishment due to me was the holy God of Creation...and then He did it......for me.....an incredible plan .

Who am I Lord that thou should love one such as me??

Codie...this is not a matter of who is "right"..it is only a matter of opening your arms to embrace your Savior. Thank Him and Give Him your life codie..Rom 5:8 But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us

I do not care where you go to church..that is between you and God..Just be willing to be obedient to Him not some men ...any men...

86 posted on 05/06/2002 1:41:25 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7
I am not the one blindly swallowing the musings of men as absolute truth.

You believe John Calvin preached absolute truth.

87 posted on 05/06/2002 1:59:33 PM PDT by Codie
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To: Codie
No I do not believe ANY man has the absolute truth...the term Calvinism is only a shorthand term that indicates a belief in the Sovereignity of God and His election of those that are His ..I have never read all of Calvin or all of Boettner or all of Luther..I leave that for the Theologians to argue..I read the bible.God has written the bible in a way that even the simplist man (or mom:>)..enlightened by the grace of God can read the gospel...
88 posted on 05/06/2002 2:06:40 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7
I have never read all of Calvin.

Then how can you so vehemently defend a philosphy you don't totally understand?

89 posted on 05/06/2002 2:16:26 PM PDT by Codie
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To: Codie
LOL Codie , take a break my friend..*grin* I have never defended Calvin...I defend the gospel...
90 posted on 05/06/2002 2:20:59 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7
Yeah, LOL! That was a pretty silly thing to say. However, it is just his mentality. He swallows what the Pope says, so to we must swallow what Calvin says. I guess my post earlier about reading the Bible and letting God give you understanding went way over his head.
91 posted on 05/06/2002 2:30:19 PM PDT by CCWoody
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To: CCWoody
Yeah, LOL! That was a pretty silly thing to say. However, it is just his mentality. He swallows what the Pope says, so to we must swallow what Calvin says. I guess my post earlier about reading the Bible and letting God give you understanding went way over his head.

Stop it.I've never once insulted a person. Return the favor.

92 posted on 05/06/2002 2:49:39 PM PDT by Codie
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To: CCWoody
I guess my post earlier about reading the Bible and letting God give you understanding went way over his head.

Yea,I did that and prayed too.Then I went back to the Catholic Church.Go figure.

93 posted on 05/06/2002 2:55:34 PM PDT by Codie
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To: Codie; RnMomof7
Yea,I did that and prayed too.Then I went back to the Catholic Church.Go figure.

Did you expect that the Lord will just give you instant understanding. Well, who are you exactly that the Lord is at your beck and call?

BTW, this really does show the mentality--a way of thinking: VIEWPOINT (Websters)--that you bring to these discussions. You pray once, nothing happens, so you go back to swallowing what other men give you.

Well, as I said to you before, if I:

... have inclined my ear and applied my heart and cried out and lifted my voice and sought after a rare treasure and the Lord still has not simply opened up my mind to understand then I will do the following: I will incline my ear and apply my heart and cry out and lift my voice and seek after the rare treasure. I will listen for the voice of the Lord and I will apply my heart to understanding and I will pray earnestly for knowledge and I will dig and dig and dig by reading the Scriptures because this knowledge is more precious than all jewels (Proverbs 3:15). I will trust in the Lord will all my heart and lean not on my own understanding (Proverbs 3:5).
So, please don't wear your feelings on your shoulders cause I am not insulting you. Do you not eat as the truth what the Pope gives you?
94 posted on 05/06/2002 3:20:21 PM PDT by CCWoody
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To: CCWoody
Did you expect that the Lord will just give you instant understanding. Well, who are you exactly that the Lord is at your beck and call?

How would you possibly know the time frame?

BTW, this really does show the mentality--a way of thinking: VIEWPOINT (Websters)--that you bring to these discussions. You pray once, nothing happens, so you go back to swallowing what other men give you.

You assume alot.How long it took, isn't the real issue with you anyway.The issue you have with me, is that after all that, I still returned to the Catholic Church.Right?

Tell the truth,God is watching.

95 posted on 05/06/2002 3:38:52 PM PDT by Codie
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To: RnMomof7
Sure, add me to the list. It will save me from hunting.
96 posted on 05/06/2002 3:45:31 PM PDT by theAmbassador
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To: Codie
How would you possibly know the time frame?

Ever read Proverbs? I've been posting it on this thread...

You assume alot.How long it took, isn't the real issue with you anyway.The issue you have with me, is that after all that, I still returned to the Catholic Church.Right?

Well, since "God is watching" let's make sure we are clear. You never stepped out of the RCC, prayed, and then returned.

Actually, it doesn't make a "hill of beans" if you agree with me or not. I'm right. I know the gospel.

Tell the truth,God is watching.

[looks left, then right]

97 posted on 05/06/2002 4:03:17 PM PDT by CCWoody
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To: CCWoody
Well, since "God is watching" let's make sure we are clear. You never stepped out of the RCC, prayed, and then returned

I really did.It took years,not that I owe you any explanation.

98 posted on 05/06/2002 4:17:42 PM PDT by Codie
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To: CCWoody;RnMomof7
I enjoy being called a liar by the way. Where is 7, she is merely patronizing,but not abrasive,like you.
99 posted on 05/06/2002 4:27:26 PM PDT by Codie
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To: Codie; RnMomof7
Well, gosh, I'm sorry, I thought you were responding to the post that I put together earlier today. You really didn't make it clear and given the flow of this thread, it seemed reasonable that you were responding to my posted material. This must mean that you have not given any thought of a meaningful nature to what I did post.

Yeah, where is that Borg woman of mine....

100 posted on 05/06/2002 4:45:01 PM PDT by CCWoody
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