Posted on 03/30/2002 7:53:37 PM PST by malakhi
He probably would have found much of what we moderns do to be wasteful. Like stroking our egos to end up posting on round number posts.
SD
It would be nice if you'd critisize it scripturally. After all you require it of others in here.
SD
Becky
Mack must have a huge policy. :-) Watch out Mack. Becky might want to cash out early. :-)
I don't ever wanna see you defend something without having scripture for it again. Because when you require it of other people there's no difference as far as I can see.
And you know that we are not? Did Havoc loan you his aura-reader?
What I find as ironical, you have no biblical support for any of the traditions you put so much emphasis in that I mentioned, but you have no problem using the scripture when you think you have one that questions or disproves something we believe in. hummmmm
It's not "ironical," it's a consequence of your belief in sola scriptura. You are open to criticism when you deviate from clear Scriptural teaching and practice. We are not. Deal with it.
I doubt seriously that if it weren’t for us NC’s asking for scriptural support for what you believe, you fellas would never open a Bible to actually see what it says.
Jim, you are quite the bigot this morning. You know better than this, yet you insist.
I believe God puts us all where we’ll work best, and he leads us to doctrine that suites our personality the best, and will help us grow spiritually. You are where you function best, since you were programmed as a youth to fit into that atmosphere.
Yes, the God of the indifferent. That you don't see how influenced this idea is by modern individualism is a shame.
I would probably die spiritually in your Church, as so might you in mine, but since God only sees the inner man, and not the outward appearance, I’m sure that the large percentage of what you do in your Church that doesn’t come from the heart, God doesn’t see any way.
You would "die spiritually," it seems, in any Church that you did not bother to understand, any Church that did not tickle your individual fancy.
Oh, and I am just as sure that God doesn't care for the things that NCs do that don't "come from the heart," but I am not here judging what they may be from outward appearances. You really want to be superior, don't you?
He doesn’t see you kneel, or genuflect, or cross your self etc.. Unless He hears your inner being, your essence, your inside man, your heart, involved in what your doing, they mean nothing to God.
Who the @#$^$ said that we do these things without involving our "inner being?" You need to put aside your judgmentalism, and quickly. It is quite ugly.
The simple fact is that Catholics worship with our entire bodies. The fact that you think gestures and positions are somehow indicative of a lack of inner thought shows that the one lacking inner thought is not us.
Kneeling is an expression of worship that goes beyond what could ever be verbalised. Words fail in these situations. Yet you see the movement of the body as an indicator that the mind is empty. That's just ignorant.
I can’t believe a rote prayer is coming from the inner parts of most RC’s, but its from your memory which is no more then reading thoughts, and not thinking them creatively or sincerely.
Do you know any hymns by heart? Does that mean you don't believe what is sung? Hypocrite.
SD
It is a gamble with a finncial reward. Which Doug defined as sinful.
I certainly don't think it's sinful. But you can not deny that there is a chance of significant payout for a small payment. Based upon the chance of a person dying. The odds even change based upon age and other factors.
SD
Of course.
SD
Jesus would use punch cards. LOL
SD
Here we go again:)
Yet you kneel in front of a statue of Mary, say a Hail Mary, but are NOT worshipping Mary!!! LOL.
Becky
????....Can you elaborate on these two thoughts?
I hope the first one isn't a problem. Jesus suffered for us and gained our redemption. Without the suffering, no redemption. Therefore suffering is redemptive.
The second sentence is an elaboration of the idea that when bad things happen to us, for good reason or for no reason, we can take solace in knowing that our suffering is not unlike that which Jesus suffered. If His suffering could bring great good and salvation to the world, we can also take heart that our suffering is not without its fruits. Our own suffering can be an instrument of our own redemption, our own sanctification, if it is used to make us more holy.
The main point being that if God came down and suffered, we can certainly expect the same. And that the suffering, if linked to that of Jesus, can have great effects on ourselves and on others. Suffering is not meaningless, suffering leads to greater good in the future. That is a promise and an example given by Jesus Himself.
SD
Again, it is Doug who defined insurance as sinful. Well, he says he didnt, but his definition fits.
Some gamblers share with their families when they win. Some even share with charities.
SD
Exactly my point. You are judging based upon externals the same way Jim was.
SD
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