Posted on 03/30/2002 12:03:57 AM PST by Brian Kopp DPM
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LOL..the best part of my non whine was I did not push the abuse button :>) Happy Easter Patent !!
A Calvinist DID post "something like this" on a Catholic thread earlier this week, (a thread for Catholics to prayerfully fight trouble in their own church, not a thread inviting Calvinists to bash the Church, mind you) as proof that the RCC was wrong and Calvinists were correct in their interpretation of scripture and history. I was aghast that OrthodoxPresbyterian would use such blatantly false "history" to try to bash us Catholics. It truly is below his level of scholarship and apologetics style, and I'm truly concerned he would trav el down such a tin foil hat path.
Regardless, it was necessary to correct the sinister deception he was foisting on Christians here by posting this response.
I never would have posted this if he had not entered a Catholic thread to spew forth such lies.
And I'm disappointed in you for whining about this measured response to such unadulterated lies.
Now I just want to say that if a Calvinist had posted something like this about Catholics all the crybabies would be out in force whinning about RC bashing...we will not whine however..because we believe in free speech!You call Catholics crybabies, whiners, and then you set yourself up as superior to them by saying you won’t whine about it, though you just had. Now you seem to admit you don't have much proof that its Catholics getting these recent posts pulled, and you know full well that there are other people who can act with or without our request. You also know full well that many of us don't use the abuse button.
When asked what it is about this post that bugs you, you say nothing. You can’t pinpoint anything wrong with this post. Now you claim to be afraid to speak. So much for your loud protestations about refusing to "preach a gospel of compromise" on the thread about the religion forums. Your fear certainly didn’t stop you from interrupting a thread where we were trying to discuss what to do about pedophilia in our Church, so whatever. You have spine when you want to, you just don't have anything to support your name calling, so you just wave your hands. I didn’t think I'd see anything different.
This article is a historical discussion of what a Catholic Cardinal did or did not say about Anabaptists. That is hardly bashing, you folks rely on this guy, one of our Cardinals, for words he supposedly said, when he didn’t say them. You are full of it, I don't recall seeing Catholics complain about similar objective posts. What bugs us is being called non-Christian, babies, whiners, idolaters, subjective things like that.
You have this thing for whining about a double standard around here. Yet, when asked to support it you can’t point to anything. You can’t point to anything in this article that compares to what some of you say on threads attacking Catholics, even non theological threads like the pedophilia one I referenced above. You complain your posts get pulled, etc. Maybe you should ask yourself what it is about your style and that of your fellows in faith that gets them dumped.
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A thread that got pulled...you do make my point
Dr. Hahn may have been paraphrasing Cardinal Newman, who I believe said, "To be learned in Church history is to cease to be Protestant." Newman converted from Anglicanism to Catholicism after having set out to research and prove Anglicanism from Church history (he obviously ended up coming to a different conclusion than he set out to prove).
Some of the readers of this thread could learn a few things by reading some of the earlier postings on the "Neverending" by yourself, Havoc, gracebeliever, ksen, JHavard, and others.
My only comment is the truth of church history has been very successfully obscured through the efforts of the RC Church, as documented by this poster. RCs, BTW, are APOSTATE Baptists!!! (All early Christians were "Baptists," who were obediently baptized by immersion as a testament to their salvation according to the Scriptures - certainly NOT for the forgiveness of sins, as is taught by the RCC)
The RC Church began their split about 350 A.D. from the early, primitive and fundamental church primarily over infant baptism and church hierarchy. The early church did not call themselves "Baptists" - they just were!! So the "2000 year history of the RC Church" is just one of many fables they promote, and similar to Peter being the First "Pope," etc.
He is Risen!! Enjoy worshiping our Lord!
Heads up.
If the "truth" of your god and your version of the gospel is so easily obscured, the god you serve must not be the awesome, omnipotent God we Catholics serve.
This is your only response to historical reality? History proves your position completely wrong, so instead of rejecting the errors of your system and following Christ's Church, you must make up a history out of whole cloth to rationalize your continued rejective of the obvious TRUTH?
Pitiful.
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