Common Creationist Arguments - Pseudoscience

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[VadeRetro]

There are things we all don't know. Don't be so hard and think you are superior to others if they don't know even if they have different ideas than you.

If you were paying attention, Aquinasfan got an "I don't know" out of me on the woodpecker tongue. I give them out where they are merited.

The problem, as I explained to him, is you don't get much for things I don't know. Not if you're selling me that practically everything I do know is wrong. Especially if it's wrong because it's all really magic and not only I missed it but almost everybody did.

[Junior]

What is a prokaryote?

A karyote that gets paid rather than just playing for the sheer enjoyment.

[Junior]

If it read as you posited, no one would be able to understand it.

[Capitalist Eric]

Ignored. (I don't debate with headcases on internet forums...)

ROFLMAO!!! Now that is funny!!!!

When someone introduces facts which blatantly demonstrate your fondness for preconceived notions, you call the person with the facts a "headcase."

Better start looking in the mirror!

[tallhappy]

Like I said, it's an intellectually lazy attack, to impugn the author... But you, like the rest of the religious zealots, can't shake the logic of his observation...

See, my impression is that you are as much, if not moreso, a religious zealot as whomever you are referring to.

[Nebullis]

There are others -- prokaryotes do not have introns.

There are exceptions, of course. Some prokaryotes do have introns.

[Junior]

Your "I know you are, but what am I" attitude is getting to be wearying. You come on these threads, make a few cryptic remarks and do a little anti-evo namecalling, but you never actually add anything to the conversation. You do not post any arguments or evidence for or against anything here. In that regard, you are worse than gore3000 -- at least he makes an argument (of course, it's the same argument he makes over and over and over again, regardless of the evidence). You just snipe and disappear.

[tallhappy]

There are exceptions, of course. Some prokaryotes do have introns.

OK. Which? References (I don't mean necessarily the actual article name and date).

[tallhappy]

but you never actually add anything to the conversation.

This mistake lends credence to my main point. I add the only thing relevant which is basic science -- molecular biology.

Someone who doesn't approach this topic from a scientific perspective or doesn't understand the science would think what you do.

[Nebullis]

OK. Which? References

There have been some in the recent literature. I'm not going to look them up for you but, if you are interested, you could do a search using keywords "intron" and "prokaryote". LOL. Hint: try PNAS

[tallhappy]

Thanks for the attempt.

I will take a look.

[tallhappy]

PS, by the way, this is the Pub Med url

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/PubMed/

[js1138]

From tallhappy:

Someone who doesn't approach this topic from a scientific perspective or doesn't understand the science would think what you do.

LOL

[tallhappy]

Here's a reference for you, J Bacteriol 1995 Jul;177(14):3897-903, Prokaryotic introns and inteins: a panoply of form and function. Belfort M, Reaban ME, Coetzee T, Dalgaard JZ. Molecular Genetics Program, Wadsworth Center and School of Public Health, State University of New York at Albany 12201-2002, USA.

JB is online at jb.asm.org

[f.Christian]

If it read as you posited, no one would be able to understand it.

903 posted on 3/20/02 9:43 AM Hawaii-Aleutian by Junior

You don't know the difference between bias/ideology and reality or...

subjectivity(make-up/believe...fantasy) vs objectivity(reality--Truth)!

A normative science is your value judgement...

positive science excludes your faith--desires--overblown ego opinions.

You can't force reality to conform to your bias--lifestyles...all ideologies fail-collapse w/o reality!

[Doctor Stochastic]

Statisticians and computer scientists distinguish random from non-random strings of digits.

This is, of course, false. Whoever you quoted from didn't do a very good job of researching things.

There are no predictions above other than those that are the same as ordinary biology predicts. What would distinguish ID from ordinary biological predictions? Just creating another (and more complex) theory that predicts the same things isn't very interesting.

[Nebullis]

Thanks! And here's one for you:

Dai L, Zimmerly S. Compilation and analysis of group II intron insertions in bacterial genomes: evidence for retroelement behavior. Nucleic Acids Res. 2002 Mar 1;30(5):1091-102.

[Lurking Libertarian]

Placemarker.

[Nebullis]

I think it's sufficiently clear by now that introns are not features which distinguish eukaryotes from prokaryotes.

[tallhappy]

I think it's sufficiently clear by now that introns are not features which distinguish eukaryotes from prokaryotes.

Once again your idiocy takes hold.

I was thinking maybe you would have learned something.