Posted on 03/13/2002 4:47:26 AM PST by JediGirl
Phylum-Level Evolution. Is a phylum higher up than an order?
Reality is more than human observation and theorizing. I don't believe that Vade said that science is all there is to reality.
But birds didn't come from lizards, they came from therapod dinosaurs, a completely different critter altogether. Microscopic bone analysis of therapods indicate they were warm blooded and had feathers. As for their internal plumbing, we don't know and never will unless we figure a way to clone them as in Jurrasic Park.
If you are going to make a statement, at least try to get some of it right. I've been going over your "God hates idiots too" post and find this sort of sloppy thinking and wording throughout. BTW, I'm putting together a rather lengthy refutation of that particular piece.
My point the entire time and I have said it over and over and over again is that these discussion are never about science or even evolution but about religion.
Evolution/Creationsim is just a vehicle for the two sides to go at it.
I am interested in actual science.
It is also a great disservice done to working sicentists and the scientific community to have a bunch of bigotted ignoramuses (such as yourself) act as they represent science or the thoughts and opinions of people doing science.
It's like the neo-Nazis and revolutionary communists always hate each other and show up to each other' small little rallys to heckle and fight.
But they are the flip sides to the same coin.
Whereas I do not consider religious evolutionists such as yourself and the others, or creationsists as equal to the Nazis or Communists in any way (except in irrational and extremist thought), understand that the above is an analogy.
Should read...
The 18th and 19th centuries witnessed the rise of positive sciences(and Normative sciences/ideologies; i.e., evolution/social evolution--communism--fascism, patrickhenry2ism) and with this an intensification in skepticism about God and the claims of traditional religion, especially among the 'educated(brainwashed)' classes.
A new tyranny... genocide!
Cell division.
Now what do you mean by "modern" mitosis and why does it take you so long to address it?
Everyone is welcome to come who wouldn't be better situated on Democratic Underground. A broad spectrum of people do come on both sides. It's not an elitist thing, sorry!
But feel free to chime in with a substantive point any time.
Humans and chimps share, IIRC, 98% of their genes. Genetically, chimps are closer to humans than they are to gorillas. I don't see why the small changes couldn't have happened in the 3 or 4 million years since the two lines diverged.
Humans didn't come from chimps; chimps and humans had a common ancestor. But biologically, the differences aren't that big. Chimps do vocalize, even if their voicebox isn't as proficient as humans'; chimps sometimes walk on two legs, and humans are not yet fully adapted to walking only on two legs (hence the prevalence of back injuries).
I emphasized "biologically" in the last paragraph, because there is a huge spiritual gulf between humans and chimps. But that's a separate issue, outside the domain of science (though very real to me).
“ Intelligent design theory can thus be empirically studied because it does make predictions….. For example, if large measures of intelligent cause were inserted into the biological realm, one might expect to find record of rapid change in the history of life, as is thought to be found in the fossil record. Tied closely to specified complexity, one might expect to find highly complex biological structures which defy a mechanistic causal explanation. Thus, intelligent design and evolutionary theory are competing hypotheses which make different predictions. Evolutionary theory predicts that the biological structures we find must be evolvable in a step-wise fashion, while Intelligent Design theory predicts that it is possible that highly complex unevolvable structures might exist. “
• Many scientific or intellectual endeavors already detect and infer Design:
• Copyright and patent offices identify theft of intellectual property
• Insurance companies prevent themselves from getting ripped off
• Detectives employ circumstantial evidence to incriminate a guilty party
• Forensic scientists are able to reliably to place individuals at the scene of a crime
• Skeptics debunk the claims of parapsychologists
• Scientists identify cases of data falsification
• NASA's SETI program seeks to detect intelligence identify the presence of extra- terrestrial life, and
• Statisticians and computer scientists distinguish random from non-random strings of digits.
• We already see and understand how intelligence operates in the natural world, and we know how to recognize the products of intelligence. Why can't design be applied in biology?
• A number of complex interacting parts intuitively sparks notions of design, so why not follow that intuition and allow investigation into notions of design in biological origins?”
Single celled organism, bacteria.
Tell us now and fast, what molecular characteristics separate them from non-prokaryotic cells?
Ma shang!!! (That's chinese means right now. (see how nice I am, I didn't answer by asking what is an idiot).
What kind of cell division?
(Cytokinetic cell divison).(words to you, my guess)
An amoeba is a single-celled organism. Is an amoeba a prokaryote?
Sorry, I just can't seem to get out of "tallhappy" mode. It's fun being the heavy.
Answer the question. What differentiates prokaryotes from eukaryotes.
You are slow..
Superb! What do you need to do mitosis? Does a prokaryote have it?
I see you don't know the difference between a eukaryotic cell and a prokaryotic cell.
You know words.
I'm stuck in tallhappy mode, sorry! A nucleus.
Does that help you answer any questions that I've asked you?
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