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Common Creationist Arguments - Pseudoscience
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Posted on 03/13/2002 4:47:26 AM PST by JediGirl

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To: AndrewC
Your technique is difficult to replicate; but I assume you're just consulting the L scale and, in effect, contriving to use the rest of the slide rule as a clumsy caliper for adding L scale lengths. This is not, strictly speaking, "adding" with a slide rule. You could do that crude operation with any measuring stick. It's nothing more than Vade's device. I'm standing by my statement: you can't do addition and subtraction with a slide rule. (And this is so off-topic that I suggest we let it drop.)
1,561 posted on 03/23/2002 11:27:21 AM PST by PatrickHenry
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To: PatrickHenry
It's nothing more than Vade's device.

Do I sense a certain snottiness here? Chicks love my device!

1,562 posted on 03/23/2002 11:31:39 AM PST by VadeRetro
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To: PatrickHenry
I'm standing by my statement: you can't do addition and subtraction with a slide rule.

"Add these two numbers or I'll wrap your knuckles with this slide rule."

(And this is so off-topic that I suggest we let it drop.)

Oops. Sorry.

1,563 posted on 03/23/2002 11:40:19 AM PST by edsheppa
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To: VadeRetro
Chicks love my device!

That takes its rightful place among a very few other memorable lines seen in our threads:

* Earth once orbited Saturn
* The platypus was divinely designed
* Noah's Ark is great science

1,564 posted on 03/23/2002 11:43:23 AM PST by PatrickHenry
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To: PatrickHenry
Gee, what great company that puts me in!

:(

1,565 posted on 03/23/2002 11:46:20 AM PST by VadeRetro
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To: AndrewC
Have you ever analyzed a memory dump(of a computer)?

Yes. It would be incomprehensible without further knowledge. But, we don't just have the code here, we have the computer and the running program. Without that DNA would be incomprehensible also.

Look, I understand your point. I don't think you're seeing mine. If I were to analyze a core dump, because it is designed, it will be at a level of complexity far, far short of the maximum. I don't think that will be true in the genome.

Time will tell. If I'm wrong a strong explanation wil be called for. That may present a chance for ID to offer something useful rather than being a throwing up of hands.

1,566 posted on 03/23/2002 11:52:08 AM PST by edsheppa
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To: Lurking Libertarian
Well said. I, as a believing Jew, accept evolution as supported by the preponderance of the scientific evidence, and I do not find this inconsistent with my faith. The laws of nature are God's laws; God made them. If something happens in a natural way, it doesn't mean that it isn't also a miracle: God created the laws of nature, and those laws are thus fully capable of carrying out God's purposes.

I just spoke with a college senior from Boulder Colorado who was mentally murdered in class for asking a professor(judge/pope--God of the universe) based only upon a animal morphization theory "why would anyone get so excited--sure of themselves over a theory"----after he repeatedly asked---challenged...if anyone had questions////doubts! She was the only one to raise her hand and voice an objection---he went nuclear! All she said---"Boulder(liberal-crazies)...whatta yah expect"? She still has to graduate and she is a psychology major!

What you believe---law--order--God--creation is what is not being taught--indoctrinated(anarchy-chaos)...what is forbidden(philosophy--science/metaphysics) in these govt. schools!

Govt evolution---secular/atheistic VS. philosophical/scientific theistic evolution are two different opposte things...basically an upside down backward world in conflict with science--REALITY you feel comfortable with!

Brain indoctrination--soul dissolving/washing by sciencepaths--zombies---social doctors/engineers---priest--clergy...anything ANTI-God/Christ-TRUTH is ok--good?!

For a lurking libertarian how could you support this---theory of witchhunters--witchcraft nazi religion?

Wasn't society--govt.--schools suppose to be NEUTRAL...not anti-good this and pro-dumb/wrong the opposite!

What we are experiencing in society and on this forum are people who living in a dumbdowned--upside backword world who can not function mentally--think/speak in a world right/smartside up!

Of course---schitzoids can make the adjustment---complete their thoughts--conversations...interpret the language--meanings...agree make sense--"science" with them!

I'm going to start calling these professors/politicians the "trench coat mafia" in cap and gowns--ribbons and their US--columbine supreme/monkey court of america!

Justices---they should have to wear hairy robes---coonskin hats to decide the way they do---official religion---secular anti-science evolution!

The constitution expressly forbids the govt from establishing any "religion/theory/philosophy"---or forbidding making laws to restrain religion--speech--trade too!

Evolution is a religion---this is a redistribution of knowledge from the haves to the have nots---ILLEGAL!

1,567 posted on 03/23/2002 12:21:33 PM PST by f.Christian
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To: f.Christian
Congatulations!! That is the longest post I have ever seen, where not one line makes the least amount of sense!
That is quite an achievemnet even for you!
My mind is now all aflutter...Thanx
My wife says I should stop pointing out your...idiocy. I agree...you do a fine job of it yourself.
Keep up the good work!
Oldcats
1,568 posted on 03/23/2002 12:34:09 PM PST by oldcats
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To: VadeRetro
By the time we had a word for "dinosaur," there hadn't been any dinosaurs--exclusive of their avian descendants--in 65 million years. The word is not the thing and the thing is not the word.

1516 posted on 3/23/02 4:33 AM Hawaii-Aleutian by VadeRetro

I get the impression that reality and science conforms to your thinking--desires!

Society--govt--schools too!

1,569 posted on 03/23/2002 12:36:52 PM PST by f.Christian
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To: oldcats
Were you a jr high science teacher in a public school?
1,570 posted on 03/23/2002 12:38:23 PM PST by f.Christian
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To: oldcats
Evolution is a religion---this is a redistribution of knowledge from the haves to the have nots---ILLEGAL...

Evolution is a very intolerant unforgiving religion---this is a redistribution of knowledge from the haves(brains) to the have nots(stupids)---ILLEGAL!

1,571 posted on 03/23/2002 12:45:54 PM PST by f.Christian
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To: radioastronomer
Bad me--i'm picking the vulture-vampire apart!
1,572 posted on 03/23/2002 12:55:43 PM PST by f.Christian
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To: jedigirl; all
Zombie-reality-masterbasher is on a rampage!
1,573 posted on 03/23/2002 12:59:33 PM PST by f.Christian
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To: PatrickHenry
This is madness...equating evolution with liberty!

Give me liberty or give me death. What say you PatrickHenry? From the famous "Liberty or Death" speech, March 23, 1775:

Mr. President, it is natural to man to indulge in the illusions of hope. We are apt to shut our eyes against a painful truth, and listen to the song of that siren till she transforms us into beasts. Is this the part of wise men, engaged in a great and arduous struggle for liberty? Are we disposed to be of the number of those who, having eyes, see not, and, having ears, hear not, the things which so nearly concern their temporal salvation? For my part, whatever anguish of spirit it may cost, I am willing to know the whole truth; to know the worst, and to provide for it.

I have but one lamp by which my feet are guided, and that is the lamp of experience. I know of no way of judging of the future but by the past. And judging by the past, I wish to know what there has been in the conduct of the British ministry for the last ten years to justify those hopes with which gentlemen have been pleased to solace themselves ...

Could just as well have been an impassioned speech against creationism (had Darwin's work existed at that time).

1507 posted on 3/23/02 1:39 AM Hawaii-Aleutian by PatrickHenry

Creationism is tyranny...isn't this 1984ish?

1,574 posted on 03/23/2002 1:19:53 PM PST by f.Christian
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To: f.Christian
Bad me--i'm picking the vulture-vampire apart!

You'd be up for a Nobel if you could only explain yourself, right?

1,575 posted on 03/23/2002 1:21:58 PM PST by VadeRetro
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To: VadeRetro
Are you hard of thinking?
1,576 posted on 03/23/2002 1:23:07 PM PST by f.Christian
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To: f.Christian
Zombie-reality-masterbasher is on a rampage!

Here, take Patrick's Shroud of New Jersey. It's got stains on it anyway. Wash your hands before you come back.

1,577 posted on 03/23/2002 1:23:37 PM PST by VadeRetro
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To: VadeRetro
Evolution/morphing is a religion/tyranny---this is a redistribution of knowledge/power from the haves to the have nots/zombies(animals)---ILLEGAL...counter(anti)-productive(intelligence)/civilized(human)!
1,578 posted on 03/23/2002 1:27:50 PM PST by f.Christian
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To: VadeRetro
I actually baited you the carp for that cheap shot...

Here, take Patrick's Shroud of New Jersey. It's got stains on it anyway. Wash your hands before you come back.

1577 posted on 3/23/02 12:23 PM Hawaii-Aleutian by VadeRetro

1,579 posted on 03/23/2002 1:30:01 PM PST by f.Christian
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To: VadeRetro
Some day after you're reprogrammed you will be thanking me!
1,580 posted on 03/23/2002 1:32:12 PM PST by f.Christian
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