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The False Security of the Born-Again Sect
The Daily Knight ^ | May 14, 2024 | David Martin

Posted on 05/16/2024 7:11:27 AM PDT by ebb tide

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To: ebb tide

What day did He rest in the in the tomb, in death, Ebb?

Your own church has made it crystal clear that the 7th-day-Sabbath is commanded as the biblical day of rest. Nowhere is Sunday ever commanded to be observed.

https://www.romeschallenge.com/downloads/RomesChallenge.pdf
ROME’S CHALLENGE
Why do Protestants keep Sunday?


61 posted on 05/16/2024 4:34:02 PM PDT by Philsworld (It's all short quips and funny memes, until you find that you've come up short in the judgment. )
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To: ebb tide

“Hence the conclusion is inevitable: viz,. that of those who follow the Bible as their guide, the Israelites and Seventh-day Adventists have the exclusive weight of evidence on their side, whilst the Biblical Protestant has not a word in self-defense for his substitution of Sunday for Saturday.”


62 posted on 05/16/2024 4:41:43 PM PDT by Philsworld (It's all short quips and funny memes, until you find that you've come up short in the judgment. )
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To: Philsworld
the Israelites and Seventh-day Adventists have the exclusive weight of evidence on their side, whilst the Biblical Protestant has not a word in self-defense for his substitution of Sunday for Saturday.”

So Christ rose from the dead after only two days?

Dont't you guys read the Bible? Not Joseph Smith' garbage?

63 posted on 05/16/2024 4:51:32 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

Crucified on Friday = day 1
Rested in the grave/tomb on the Sabbath = day 2
Rose from the grave/tomb on Sunday = day 3

I barely know who Joseph Smith is, and I don’t care.


64 posted on 05/16/2024 4:58:37 PM PDT by Philsworld (It's all short quips and funny memes, until you find that you've come up short in the judgment. )
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To: ebb tide

Whether they admit it or not, every Sunday-keeping Protestant shows their allegiance and authority to the Papacy. Sunday as a commanded day of worship is not in the bible.

Archbishop of Reggio’s Sermon
to the Council of Trent on the Power of the Church:
By Our Authority The Sabbath Was Changed To Sunday!

https://www.biblelightinfo.com/bssb-1443-1444.htm


65 posted on 05/16/2024 5:01:32 PM PDT by Philsworld (It's all short quips and funny memes, until you find that you've come up short in the judgment. )
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To: Philsworld

So why do you have problems with Sunday worship. The day Christ rose from the dead?


66 posted on 05/16/2024 5:03:07 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

Was Jesus crucified on Wednesday, Thursday, or Friday?

“The only chronology that can be reconciled with scripture on all points is the Friday crucifixion and Sunday resurrection. It is the only scenario in which the typical festival days and their fulfillment match exactly, without a single discrepancy!”

https://www.biblelightinfo.com/pasover.htm


67 posted on 05/16/2024 5:06:52 PM PDT by Philsworld (It's all short quips and funny memes, until you find that you've come up short in the judgment. )
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To: ebb tide

Because the substitution of Sunday for the 7th-day-Sabbath is contrary to the law of God. The 4th commandment is very clear.


68 posted on 05/16/2024 5:08:17 PM PDT by Philsworld (It's all short quips and funny memes, until you find that you've come up short in the judgment. )
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To: ebb tide

David Martin will have to answer to the Lord for his blatant lies about Martin Luther and the TRUE Christian faith!

I was wondering how long you could go before starting up your religion Freeper wars.


69 posted on 05/16/2024 5:17:17 PM PDT by boatbums (When you dwell in the shelter of the Most High, you will rest in the shadow of the Almighty. )
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To: ebb tide

Revelation 14:12Here is the patience of the saints: here are they that keep the commandments of God, and the faith of Jesus.

Substituting Sunday worship for the 7th-day-Sabbath is not a commandment of God. It will also be the final Mark of the Beast issue. Those people who choose Sunday will not be in heaven. Their goose will be cooked, no matter how much they wail or gnash their teeth.


70 posted on 05/16/2024 5:18:27 PM PDT by Philsworld (It's all short quips and funny memes, until you find that you've come up short in the judgment. )
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To: cookcounty
“Do penance?” Where in the New Testament do you find that?

They find it by falsely interpreting the word "repent".

71 posted on 05/16/2024 5:27:09 PM PDT by boatbums (When you dwell in the shelter of the Most High, you will rest in the shadow of the Almighty. )
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To: boatbums

Martin Luther is in Hell according to St Padre Pio.


72 posted on 05/16/2024 5:37:08 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

“So according to your misguided logic, the ‘whole world’ is saved.”

Jesus’ death on the cross paid for the sins of the whole world.

His sacrifice is sufficient for all but efficient for some (i.e. the elect).

His sacrifice is appropriated “personally” by those who hear the Gospel and respond in repentance and faith. (In some cases people have already repented before hearing the Gospel, after being convicted of their sins by God’s moral law written in scripture, nature, and our hearts/conscience.)

Salvation is a process. When a person believes the Gospel, he or she is justified based on the blood of Christ shed on the cross (propitiation).

The process continues from there in the sanctification of the believer through continued obedience.

Salvation will be complete when we are glorified with Christ in the world to come.

So, in a sense, Christ did “save” the whole world. But in another sense, only the elect will be saved ultimately.

John 3:16-18 NKJV
For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life. For God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world, but that the world through Him might be saved. He who believes in Him is not condemned; but he who does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God.

John 12:47 NKJV
And if anyone hears My words and does not believe, I do not judge him; for I did not come to judge the world but to save the world.

I John 2:2 NKJV
And He Himself is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the whole world.

John 1:12 NKJV
But as many as received Him, to them He gave the right to become children of God, to those who believe in His name.

Romans 8:30 NKJV
Moreover whom He predestined, these He also called; whom He called, these He also justified; and whom He justified, these He also glorified.

1 Peter 1:2 NKJV
Elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, in sanctification of the Spirit, for obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ.


73 posted on 05/16/2024 5:38:15 PM PDT by unlearner (I, Robot: I think I finally understand why Dr. Lanning created me... ;-)
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To: boatbums

See posts #45, #47, and #49 and then tell us about your “sola scriptura” and how you ignore even that falsehood.


74 posted on 05/16/2024 5:41:33 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: ebb tide

“The Protestants don’t believe in repentance.”

Justification is by faith alone, but saving faith is never alone.

Romans 3:28 NKJV
Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faith apart from the deeds of the law.

James 2:17 NKJV
Thus also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead.

It is an error to say salvation is by faith alone because, as I said in my previous post, justification is only part of the salvation process.

Faith is always accompanied by works of faith and evidentiary “fruit”.

Further, there are prerequisites to faith, and they are expressed in repentance. A person who does not repent cannot believe.

John 12:39-40 NKJV
Therefore they could not believe, because Isaiah said again: “He has blinded their eyes and hardened their hearts, Lest they should see with their eyes, Lest they should understand with their hearts and turn, So that I should heal them.”

John 5:44 NKJV
How can you believe, who receive honor from one another, and do not seek the honor that comes from the only God?

“Once saved, always saved.”

This is not a Biblical saying, and it is flawed. As I pointed out, salvation is a process. It is not a state of being.

There is a Biblical doctrine of the security of the believer. But salvation is conditional. The test for saving faith is perseverance. The elect, those who are called by God to belive UNTO salvation, always persevere unto the end.

The idea of the “sinner’s prayer” for salvation and as a milestone for assurance of salvation is not Biblical.

Those who “call on the name of the Lord” do not merely do so one time. We are the ones who enter into a relationship with Christ through the indwelling Holy Spirit and continually call on Jesus as our Lord. It is an ongoing experience characterized by obedience (meaning to act consistent with the reality that Jesus is Lord) that confirms the reality of the salvation experience.

Those who preach a false Gospel that makes “saving faith” into merely a cursory acknowledgment of the historicity of Christ’s death with no repentance and no surrender to Him as Lord, are leading people to Hell. Those who say a “Christian” can murder (e.g. abortion), commit adultery and fornication, can steal and live any way they choose and still enter Heaven are woefully mistaken. Those who are in this state need to not merely revisit their initial “salvation experience” but question altogether their very concept of what Biblical salvation means.

“Jesus died for their sins and they’re home free.”

Jesus died to take away our sins, not merely to take away the penalty of them.

John 1:29 NKJV
The next day John saw Jesus coming toward him, and said, “Behold! The Lamb of God who takes away the sin of the world!”

1 John 3:5 NKJV
And you know that He was manifested to take away our sins, and in Him there is no sin.


75 posted on 05/16/2024 5:42:34 PM PDT by unlearner (I, Robot: I think I finally understand why Dr. Lanning created me... ;-)
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To: unlearner

Cherry pickers do pick their cherries, don’t they?


76 posted on 05/16/2024 5:50:23 PM PDT by ebb tide
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To: Philsworld

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Substituting Sunday worship for the 7th-day-Sabbath is not a commandment of God. It will also be the final Mark of the Beast issue....

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How about those that choose Passover, Unleavened Bread and First Fruits over the Catholic Friday, Catholic Saturday,and Catholic Sunday?

Which 3 days are the correct version of the first/chief importance of the gospel?


77 posted on 05/16/2024 7:40:00 PM PDT by delchiante
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To: delchiante

——>How about those that choose Passover, Unleavened Bread and First Fruits over the Catholic Friday, Catholic Saturday, and Catholic Sunday?

Same for those who choose Lucky Charms over Sugar Smacks. It doesn’t matter, and it makes no sense (The Ceremonial law ended with the death of Christ). The issue will be over the 7th-day-Sabbath, the TRUE Sabbath of God, and Sunday, the false sabbath of the Antichrist power. Make sure you don’t choose poorly, because, it will be the deciding factor between life and death when the MOTB issue comes into play at the end of the world.


78 posted on 05/17/2024 1:13:53 AM PDT by Philsworld (It's all short quips and funny memes, until you find that you've come up short in the judgment. )
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To: ebb tide
Martin Luther is in Hell according to St Padre Pio.

I'm thankful that I won't be judged by Father Pio or any other man save Christ. "But I will forewarn you whom ye shall fear: Fear Him, which after He hath killed hath power to cast into hell; yea, I say unto you, Fear Him." - Luke 12:5

"Whoever believes in Him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe stands condemned already because they have not believed in the name of God's one and only Son." - John 3:18 explains in the simplest terms who will go to heaven and who will go to hell.

79 posted on 05/17/2024 4:52:05 AM PDT by JesusIsLord
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To: Philsworld

Makes no difference?

I read in the bible that the 15th Day of His 1st month is an annual holy convocation and no servile work to be done.

That is not coincidentally,the same day Israel was led out of bondage by the blood of the Passover Lamb.

That is not coincidentally, the day after Christ died, laying in the tomb on the 15th, Day of Unleavened Bread,the annual Sabbath.

That’s not the only annual Sabbath Israel was to have on their hand and between their eyes, but it was the first , as Exodus 13:9 details.

Israel was also supposed to observe the 15th Day of His 7th month as a holy convocation and no servile work. And the 8th Day of the Feast, which is the 22nd Day of His Feast of Tabernacles.

That’s interesting that the 15th Day in the 1st and 7th months are Sabbath’s, but this year, that was a Catholic false god Tiwsday March 26, based on the barley harvest and lights in His firmament, for the 15th Day of His 1st month.

That annual Sabbath is the day after the commemoration of Christ ,Our Passover Lamb, finishing His work on the 14th, and the day before the 16th Day, the annual wavesheaf/First Fruits observation, when the Lamb was raised as First Fruits of those who have fallen asleep.

Those three days have an annual Sabbath Day in the middle(15th).

The annual Sabbath Day in the 7th months (15th and 22nd) actually have 6 days in between them. (16,17,18,19,20,21st)

And it looks like in Exodus 16, the 16th Day is the first day manna began to fall, and fell for 6 days (16,17,18,19,20,21st)

Same 6 days in the 2nd and 7th months match as days in between the 15th Day and 22nd Day.

Maybe, just maybe the 16th Day in His 1st month, Resurrection Day, is the same day in the 2nd and 7th months, the First Day of the week.

That means the Father’s Passover,Unleavened Bread and First Fruits, or the 14th,15th,16th, are in direct competition with Catholic Friday,Catholic Saturday and Catholic Sunday for Paul’s first importance of the gospel, and for Israelites to have as a sign on their hand and between their eyes , for by a strong hand the Lord brought them out of Egypt.

Almost a shame today’s Israelites have postponement rules for His 15th Day when it conflicts with their Catholic Saturday.

But very prophetic..

Almost like that can’t buy that today is the Father’s 1st day,the 9th Day of His 3rd month,but they can buy that today is the Catholic 6th Day, false goddess frigg day May 17.

The Father wins in the end.
So does His Passover Lamb, His Unleavened Bread and His First Fruits.

Choosing the Passover Lamb may mean rejecting the Catholic Friday,Catholic Saturday and Catholic Sunday..

You know who can’t afford to do that?
Islam,Judaism, Christianity.

Amazingly prophetic


80 posted on 05/17/2024 7:01:36 AM PDT by delchiante
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