Posted on 04/10/2024 5:22:37 PM PDT by grumpa
It seems you're unable to answer the questions.
Sure seems like this is very applicable.
Bible teachers to whom I had been listening could not give meaningful answers to my challenging questions about prophecy.
Has the Parousia already happened?
There is only one passage in the New Testament out of a couple dozen that does not have a time limitation either specified or implied of fulfillment in the first century. I have an article about that too:
https://prophecyquestions.com/what-does-the-bible-say-about-the-timing-of-the-second-coming/
Call me a partial Preterist. Notes in the ESV Study Bible place the writing of Revelation around A.D. 95 based on the description of the cities and churches in the early chapters. Clearly, Jesus was telling some people about things they would see before the end of their lives.
Just as clearly, John did not have to be “in the spirit” to have a vision of things that had already happened if he was writing in 95. And if he was writing prior to 70, why did he seem to err seriously in predicting so many things that don’t seem to have happened?
I am confident we will learn the answers to questions like these, but I doubt it will be through debates like this.
—> The letter of Revelation itself says nothing about a shift in audience or subject matter. It says nothing about a delay in timing or a change in intended audience. EVER.. . .
And this again points to your lack of education in Bible and theology.
Playground rules....put up or hush up.
for the last time you say, well adios
Some answers require more than a paragraph. . . .
If someone really wants an answer, they can click on the links.
One simple question he cannot, or will not answer....has the Second Coming of Christ already happened?
Drop the paragraphs in that case.
No one is giving you any hits.
Seems like your rule #13 is applicable...TO YOU.
Once again, has the Parousia already happened?
Yes, Jesus came in judgment in finality in AD 70.
But if you want to find passage that holds out hope for a second Second Coming, go to Acts 1:9-11.
I refute the premise that one has to be either preterist or futurist or historicist. When I look at eschatology (especially Revelation), some of it seems preterist and some of it futurist. It could be that the timeline of the seals and trumpets are spread out across many centuries with the early parts in John’s near future, some parts done recently, and the later parts not yet completed.
So it's already happened?????
IF He can in finality in 70 AD....then that would have been the Second Coming.
And you're saying a "second, Second Coming???
Bro, you have no clue what you're talking about. You are a false prophet.
And I thought Roman Catholics were way off base.....but, bro....you’ve exceeded them in your error in handling the Word.
The important thing is that YESHUA will physically return. And our Reserected bodies will be physical NOT completly Spiritual.
Good grief.
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It became excruciatingly clear that many preterists, have made glaringly false predictions about the rapture, Second Coming, and the end of the world. These charlatans (yes, that’s a strong but deserved charge) include: GRUMPA aka Charles Meek.
—> Yes, Jesus came in judgment in finality in AD 70.
Somehow history never managed to record Him appearing in70ad…
Was he invisible, or is this your gnostic roots showing?
—> These charlatans (yes, that’s a strong but deserved charge) include: GRUMPA aka Charles Meek.
Wait.
Are you saying the heretical blog this guy quotes is written by himself???
Or any historian.
I do believe that is correct.
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