We stand on the Word of God"
Posted on 03/30/2023 6:43:37 PM PDT by ADSUM
And this is a problem how?
Faith alone, in Christ alone, by Scripture alone, by grace alone, for the glory of God alone.
We stand on the Word of God and let the chips fall as they may.
No literacy Required,,,
Kinda sums it up.
Catholics I’ve known say they Don’t read the Bible!
@ 13 So the Catholic Church for centuries only allowed scripture to be translated into the ‘dead’ language Latin, which few could read. Hmmm?? sounds like a good organization to follow.
So you can slouch off to purgatory, you hope, when you die, instead of accepting the very clear Biblical promise, “to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord?”
If your illiterate you wont be able to “easily understand it”. No matter how dumbed down it is.
And if the Bible was so darn easy to understand and interpret, why there should be no divisions within Protestantism because after all it is so gosh darn easy to understand. There should be no disagreement.
Thats why the Church teaches what it means. Leaving the interpretation up to the unwashed masses has resulted in the
theological anarchy present in the non-Catholic world.
Satan hates Latin
Dont really need to. The Church is there to guide you. I wouldnt leave understanding the Faith up to my own interpretation of the Bible anymore than I would perform heart surgery on myself from a med book.
Satan loves That Magic Cookie!
Catholicism vs Protestants ; thread #11,836.
Is it resolved yet?
Meanwhile back at the ranch, Roy and Trigger are closing in on the Box Canyon gang.
Grin! Cheers FRiend. Scripture for all.
We stand on the Word of God"
https://catholicconvert.com/absent-from-the-body-present-with-the-lord/
I realize now — that as a Protestant — I misquoted the Bible when challenging Catholics about Purgatory. Catholics taught that there was a “transition” between earth and heaven—a place or state of final purification called Purgatory.
“But how can there be a Purgatory?” I asked. “Doesn’t St. Paul teaches that ‘to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord’? Since ‘absence from the body’ means that we are immediately in ‘the presence of the Lord,’ there can’t be anything called Purgatory.
It denies the clear teaching of the Bible!”
Whoa! Slow down! Is this really what the Bible says? First, that is a misreading of the Bible—a twisting of Scripture to score a point.
The Bible does NOT say “to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord.” Rather it says,
“So we are always of good courage; we know that while we are at home in the body we are away from the Lord,
for we walk by faith, not by sight. We are of good courage, and we would rather be away from the body and at home with the Lord” (2 Cor 5:6-8).
This is very different from my old argument. Paul would rather be away from the body and at home with the Lord,
but certainly doesn’t say it the way I twisted it in my old anti-Catholic days.
If I want to be away from Michigan in the winter I might say “In the winter we would rather be away from Michigan and present in Arizona.” It does NOT say that to be away from Michigan that I am instantly or automatically in Arizona.
We understand that this language leaves room for a transition period—especially in an automobile or plane with a possible motel or visit along the way. Paul’s words also leave room for such a transition; it does not exclude Purgatory.
Second, Paul teaches that we will pass through fire. Notice what he says in 1 Corinthians 3:15: On “the Day” if “any man’s work is burned up, he will suffer loss, though he himself will be saved, but only as through fire.” (1 Corinthians 3:15, RSVCE). Sounds like Purgatory to me.
Third, Purgatory is not “away from the Lord” strictly speaking. Those in Purgatory—whether it is a place or a state of transition— are not apart from the Lord. In fact, it is the love of God that is purifying them.
I have always said that Purgatory is like the front porch of heaven. Those who are in Purgatory know they have arrived!
But you can read more about that in my article on Purgatory here. So, don’t let someone trick you with the old “to be absent from the body is to be present with the Lord” argument. It is fallacious and deceptive. Again, the Catholic Church is correct.
Yes,
Film at 11! LOL!
The Church does not worship Mary. Who were her other children?
“Divisions within Protestantism” ain’t no different than the many “orders” within the RCC. In fact, much of Martin Luther’s “Protestant” beliefs were the norm in the Augustinian Order Luther was part of until the Council of Trent reigned in the Augustinian Order.
I think the Catholic’s biggest problem is that 99% of what anyone needs to know is very clearly taught in the Bible.
Frankie hates Latin.
>>>Grin! Cheers FRiend. Scripture for all.
Sure thing! Just like firearms...good to have it but got to know how to use it!
John 5:24
“Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life. He does not come into judgment, but has passed from death to life.” - Jesus -
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