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1 posted on 03/16/2023 5:51:01 PM PDT by marshmallow
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“Hell is a state, there are people who live in Hell continuously.”

And who would they be Frankie? Us conservatives perhaps?

40 posted on 03/16/2023 6:43:58 PM PDT by xp38
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To: marshmallow

Pope Francis is a liberation theology tool; he’ll be gone soon enough. Pray for him.
The jokers who elected him are the real problem.


41 posted on 03/16/2023 6:44:07 PM PDT by Montana_Sam (Truth lives.)
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To: marshmallow; ConservativeMind; ealgeone; Mark17; BDParrish; fishtank; boatbums; Luircin; ...
And it came to pass, that the beggar died, and was carried by the angels into Abraham’s bosom: the rich man also died, and was buried; And in hell he lift up his eyes, being in torments, and seeth Abraham afar off, and Lazarus in his bosom. And he cried and said, Father Abraham, have mercy on me, and send Lazarus, that he may dip the tip of his finger in water, and cool my tongue; for I am tormented in this flame. But Abraham said, Son, remember that thou in thy lifetime receivedst thy good things, and likewise Lazarus evil things: but now he is comforted, and thou art tormented. And beside all this, between us and you there is a great gulf fixed: so that they which would pass from hence to you cannot; neither can they pass to us, that would come from thence. Then he said, I pray thee therefore, father, that thou wouldest send him to my father’s house: For I have five brethren; that he may testify unto them, lest they also come into this place of torment. (Luke 16:22-28)

This is a true story as well as representing two classes of souls. Jesus never used real names in any parable, nor science fiction, as instead in parable He used known physical realities (a pearl, a sheep, etc.) which represented a spiritual reality. But if there is no conscious torment after death, then Christ would be referring to something that would be science fiction, not a known physical reality,that of interminable torment after physical death, in an environment that is contrary to known laws of physics (otherwise a drop - which is all the damned sould dared ask for - of water would evaporate).

Likewise,

And whosoever shall offend one of these little ones that believe in me, it is better for him that a millstone were hanged about his neck, and he were cast into the sea. And if thy hand offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter into life maimed, than having two hands to go into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched: Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched. And if thy foot offend thee, cut it off: it is better for thee to enter halt into life, than having two feet to be cast into hell, into the fire that never shall be quenched: Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched. And if thine eye offend thee, pluck it out: it is better for thee to enter into the kingdom of God with one eye, than having two eyes to be cast into hell fire: Where their worm dieth not, and the fire is not quenched. (Mark 9:42-48)
Then shall he say also unto them on the left hand, Depart from me, ye cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: (Matthew 25:41)
And these shall go away into everlasting punishment: but the righteous into life eternal. (Matthew 25:46)
The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth. (Matthew 13:41-42)
And shall cast them into the furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth. (Matthew 13:50)
And the smoke of their torment ascendeth up for ever and ever: and they have no rest day nor night, who worship the beast and his image, and whosoever receiveth the mark of his name. (Revelation 14:11)
And the devil that deceived them was cast into the lake of fire and brimstone, where the beast and the false prophet are, and shall be tormented day and night for ever and ever. (Revelation 20:10)

43 posted on 03/16/2023 6:46:19 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Turn to the Lord Jesus as a damned+destitute sinner, trust Him who saves, be baptized + follow Him!)
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To: marshmallow

Why did the Vatican install an atheist Pope? What is the point? May as well dissolve the Catholic Church!

A church without faith is a church without life. This Pope wants the bride of Christ dead.


44 posted on 03/16/2023 6:47:00 PM PDT by Flavious_Maximus (Tony Fauci will be put on death row and die of COVID!)
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When the pope (head of a religion calling itself Christianity) outright contradicts Jesus, shouldn’t he be removed?


46 posted on 03/16/2023 6:50:41 PM PDT by MHGinTN (A dispensation perspective is a powerful tool for discernment)
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To: marshmallow

Peter the Roman - the last Pope. Ain’t going to be anything left to be Pope over after this demon possessed fool splits hell wide open.


48 posted on 03/16/2023 7:10:16 PM PDT by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite its unfashionability)
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Pope Francis appeared to deny the existence of Hell, saying that “is not a place” but is instead simply “a state of the heart” and “a posture towards life.”

Well, this is handy. He can be our resident expert. When he gets there, he can send us a first-hand report on whether it's the fiery furnace or merely the state of having an evil, black heart.

49 posted on 03/16/2023 7:20:19 PM PDT by SamuraiScot
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To: marshmallow

I suspect he will soon find out the truth. I’ll have no sympathy for him. The Bible and God’s Word is available who all that seek the truth. When you refuse to accept His word your name is removed from the Book of Life.


51 posted on 03/16/2023 7:27:02 PM PDT by CFW (old and retired)
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Francis the Fraud knows the score better than Christ Himself.

The pagan fool will know better soon enough.

The Gospel according to Francis ... bah, humbug.


61 posted on 03/16/2023 7:53:02 PM PDT by Quentin Quarantino
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To: marshmallow

“whoever says, ‘You fool!’ will be liable to the hell of fire.”

“Then he will say to those on his left, ‘Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels.”

“Then they will go away to eternal punishment, but the righteous to eternal life.”

Just a few quotes from Jesus Christ on hell.. so who are you going to believe Jesus Christ, or the Woke Pope?


67 posted on 03/16/2023 8:16:21 PM PDT by TexasFreeper2009
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Why don’t you drop your pope?

You don’t need him or the papacy.

All you need is Jesus Christ, the cross and Him crucified for your sin.


68 posted on 03/16/2023 8:25:54 PM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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No, Hell is a place, Francis. It’s inside the earth. It’s hot and dark, etc.


72 posted on 03/16/2023 8:53:09 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (FBI out of Florida!)
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I’m not a Catholic.

Have a feeling they are mostly pretending to support and follow the Pope out of duty and respect for the Church but they know he is leading them all terribly astray.

A good Pope Saint John Paul II should have the following but not this one but that’s not the way the hierarchy works. Like military leaders expecting the rank and file to obey and serve without revolt.

But the eternal fate of people’s souls are at stake.


74 posted on 03/16/2023 10:22:15 PM PDT by frank ballenger (You have summoned up a thundercloud. You're gonna hear from me. Anthem by Leonard Cohen)
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To: marshmallow

“Hell is other people.”

-Jean-Paul Sartre


76 posted on 03/16/2023 10:58:23 PM PDT by Az Joe (Live free or die)
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Sachi looked down and muttered, “If anyone deserves to go to Hell, he does...”

Her mentor sat back and chuckled, “Actually, we all do.”

“We do?”

“Yes. None of us belong in Heaven. Not even a sweet girl like you.”

“Oh. But why not?”

Kikuoka removed his tie, then he put his hands behind his head and looked up. “Because we don’t rate, none of us. We all screw up and fall short. Even Moses messed up near the end of his life, which is why he was not allowed to enter the Promised Land.”

“But sir, I can understand why bad people like Hitler might go to Hell, but why would everyone..”

He interrupted her. “Oh, Hitler is not there.”

“He’s not?”

“No. Nobody is.”

“I don’t understand.”

“It’s because it hasn’t happened yet.”

“What hasn’t?”

“The event that drops us all in there, in Hell. Well, the ones left behind anyway.”

“What event?”

He smiled again. “Ah, now that’s a good question. The Bible is kind of vague about how it is going to happen.”

Sachi leaned forward. “Please sir, I want to know.”

Kikuoka relaxed and put his feet on his desk. “Well, it requires knowledge of Greek and gets technical, so for now let’s just step back a moment. The first thing to understand is that Jesus liked to use very strong language when talking about God, very vivid imagery. He’d say things like ‘Why do you pay no attention to the plank in your eye?’ [Mt 7:3, Lk 6:41] and ‘You blind guides! You strain out a gnat, but swallow a camel!’ [Mt 23:24] He did the same thing when talking about Hell: ‘If your eye makes you stumble, pluck it out’ or else be ‘thrown into Hell [Gehenna], the unquenchable fire.’ [Mk 9:47-48] That’s strong stuff.”

“But He also chose his words very carefully. You see, back then everybody in Jerusalem knew what that Gehenna (Hebrew: Gehinnom) meant. It was a real place, a garbage dump that was right outside of town. It was a large depression just outside the city walls where the people tossed out their trash, and it fell and accumulated in the valley below. For hundreds of years all that garbage accumulated in thick layers of decaying organic matter that decomposed into methane gas. From the wall of Jerusalem you could look down and literally see all these little fires burning all over that valley, and those fires really were unquenchable. You can still see those fires today at big municipal garbage dumps, where pipes are stuck into the ground to burn off the methane gas.”

“So, you are saying that Hell is like a garbage dump?”

“That’s His metaphor, not mine. You see, it’s the default place where everything ends up. God’s junk pile. It’s separation, isolation. I think that Jesus is using really strong language to literally put the fear of God in you. He is warning you that you really, really, really do not want to end up in that garbage pile.”

“But where is it? And why aren’t we there yet?”

“Oh, we’re there all right. Right now. You and me. Everybody.”

“Now I am really confused...”

“Sorry. You see, I think we’re standing on it. The Bible says that Jesus comes back, and a bunch of bad things happen, then finally the Earth gets destroyed [Mt 24:35, Mk 13:31, Lk 21:33]. We don’t know how exactly, but in my opinion the easiest way is with an asteroid - and not a particularly big one - a rock only 120 miles wide is enough to boil the seas [2 Pe 3:7] and melt the Earth’s crust entirely away [Rev 21:1].”

“And then we all fall in? Plop, just like that?”

“That’s just my hunch, based on the original text - you would have to dig into the Greek translation of `cast’ versus `drop’ among other things - but the point is that it’s inevitable. All we need to do is to simply sit on our collective butts and do nothing. Sooner or later, whether you are alive or in your grave, eventually all that exists in this sad world, you, me, and everything else that remains on Earth will fall into that burning cauldron of unquenchable magma.”

“It sounds so depressing..”

He made a small smile. “Well, I could go on to explain thermodynamic entropy and how it will eventually make the whole universe run down, and really depress you, but I won’t. Look, just don’t get hung up about it. The key thing to remember is that God loves us and wants a relationship with us.”

She looked down. “If He does, I don’t feel it.”

He put his hand on her shoulder. “It’s hard for you. I understand.”


100 posted on 03/17/2023 4:10:05 AM PDT by Gideon7
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He may well eff around and find out. 😏


118 posted on 03/17/2023 7:45:57 AM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose of a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped)
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Shocking ignorance and heresy.

Impeach 266!


135 posted on 03/17/2023 12:20:30 PM PDT by Albion Wilde (“There is no good government at all & none possible.”--Mark Twain)
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Monsignor Pope has a good read on hell today. You can’t beat Thomas Aquinas. https://blog.adw.org/author/cpope/


138 posted on 03/17/2023 12:32:25 PM PDT by MomwithHope (Forever grateful to all our patriots, past, present and future.)
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I suppose the Vatican is also just “a state of mind”.


158 posted on 03/17/2023 5:19:40 PM PDT by Pennsyltucky Boy (bitterly clinging to our constitutional rights in PA)
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Just because he doesn’t believe in it doesn’t mean he ain’t goin’ there. He’s going there.


161 posted on 03/17/2023 5:25:45 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam (Stupid is supposed to hurt.)
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