Posted on 10/03/2021 11:37:08 PM PDT by Salvavida
If someone sees the modern church as the woman and whore of Babylon, then the whole church being gone in the end is not accurate.
It’s there.
As a whore.
That’s a premise the church can’t accept.
But the church calls today Moon Day and tomorrow false God Tiws day..
And it doesn’t get much better later in Satans false week either..
I see Babylon much different than the church.
That’s okay.
Because I see Jesus differently than the church too.
December 25 is false.
And the church doesn’t get anything right at His death either..
I see Revelation 12 happening daily.
Satan deceiving the whole world.
Some are still waiting for that..
“They Live”
Your assertion, albeit an error in perception regarding me, exposes your spiritual immaturity. This IS an open forum, but do not presume even the majority of readers here are so bible smart that your false prophecy does not deceive. You asserted a day for the Rapture. You were absolutely wrong. Now, when you are called on it you are unable to admit you are publicly mistaken. There is not one single modern asserttion of the day for the Rapture that has been correct. How many times for these false prophecies happen with no negative impact upon those watching Christians who have not yet been born again? Your pride is making a sueful idiot for satanic deception.
I have a list of problems, but not one of them wouldn’t be cured with the Rapture.
Once again, it is not a prophecy. You keep using that word and you don’t know what it means.
Read the TITLE OF THE THREAD. It’s a window that is being watched because there are a lot of good reasons for it.
I asserted a possibility, as all of the watchmen have stated. If wrong, then we keep at it. We don’t go to sleep. We keep watching.
Fun fact: if this is a Year of Jubilee that the Jews missed after they fled, then both Rosh Hashana and Atonement can be satisfied by Christ in ONE DAY. That is the missing data that no one seems to have.
Dude no one is deceiving anyone. There are logical arguments and the Lord himself said to......wait for it......WATCH. Satanic deception discussing the Bible by reason? Wow.
Pride? Reason by Scripture. Pride has nothing to do with this thread. Except your feelings getting hurt.
Not sure where you are going. The “women” is Israel in Rev 12, having nothing to do with Babylon. So we are tracking I guess.
The woman in Revelation 12 in the heavens could be seen on an astronomy app, with the moon under her feet, on October 8.
A day you were watching for something to happen..
It did.
It’s the New Moon Day.
A day that is Holy to the Creator.
It’s the day,according to Ezekiel 46:1, that the gate at the temple was to be open. Its a day, according to scripture,that isn’t one of His 6 work days or His Sabbath.
A day that commemorates Genesis 1:1,John 1:1 and John 1:14.
It’s a day that occurs once a month.
It’s a day that is represented in Revelation as the Throne in Heaven.
And then 24 work days follow.
And 4 Sabbath days
And in the midst of the 24 days, the Lamb,on the 14th day.
If 24 and 4 sounds familiar, they are pictured as 24 elders and 4 Beasts around the Throne where the First and Last sits.
In Revelation.
That pattern repeats monthly.
That’s the pattern Satan and the church ignores.
Is that the church that gets to fly away so Satan can cause the world to worship the beast?
The world already does worship the beast..
It just doesn’t know it.
God gave a sign in His Heavens on October 8.
It was there. Who saw it?
The church?
Israel?
Judaism?
Islam?
Nope
False goddess frigg day, October 15, is going to be the Father’s 15th Day, and His weekly Sabbath.
Not according the Satan, or the Roman Beast, or Antichrist Islam,Judaism and Antichrist Papacy.
But according to Scripture and His signs in the heavens.
The entire Babylonian system will fall.
Some have heard the call to come out of it..
One correction.
Babylon’s false goddess Frigg day, October 15th is the Father’s 8th Day and weekly Sabbath.
The Fathers 15th day and 7th day Sabbath for His second week, is hosted by Babylon’s false goddess Frigg Day, October 22.
That’s something Islam,Judaism and Christianity today can’t buy or sell.
Yet, the scriptures and His Creation can teach it.
Amen to that.
It’s still coming; as a thief in the night.
🌌
(preaching to the choir)
(The “women” is Israel in Rev 12)
That’s correct
I have no idea what that means.
A “church” that worships the world could be called “the apostate woman”.
Yes, there will be Tribulation saints. I expect most, if not all, will be martyred.
For refusing the Mark of the Beast.
But they live forever.
Revelation 20:4.
And that’s sort of the point.
Satan sells a counterfeit set of lies and the world believes them as gospel truth.
Not because the church is gone.
But because the church, the Kingdom of Heaven on Earth, is here.
And fully leavened.
And corrupted.
Just like the parable of the leaven and the woman and the meal, predicts.
Leaven, a picture of sin, a picture of false doctrines, in the bible.
It’s not an accident that Saul was given two leavened loaves of bread.
Nor that the church was birthed on a Feast day that offers two leavened loaves.
It’s prophecy.
Physical Israel was always going to have a king Saul period.
Two leavened loaves.
So would spiritual Israel.
So would the church.
The hope better be it doesn’t turn into 3 loaves,or 3,000 years.
Because unless He shortens the time,no flesh is saved.
But for the elect sake,the time gets shortened.
What has been going on for the last 2,000 years is Satan in the church.
Peter being called Satan, and Judas having Satan enter him, is also prophecy.
The first disciple to the last in the church.
Satan influenced.
If the modern church believes it’s a Bride, then it is following Eve’s pattern.
A pattern that has her eating from Satan’s tree.
Thinking it’s spotless and pure, when it’s wretched, pitiable, poor, blind and naked.
Not for lack of faith.
But for lack of testing and proving all things that Satan,the Roman Beast of Daniel, and Antichrist Islam,Judaism and Papacy sells.
Thankfully His Mercy and Loving kindness endures forever!
And Satan’s lies and his counterfeits do not.
Satan deceives the whole world.
Satan isn’t waiting.
And the rub is Satan needs religion.
Satan needs Islam, Judaism and modern Christianity to deceive the world.
The doctrines of demons that Satan peddles in all three of the Abrahamic religions causes the whole world to wander after the beast.
That comes from line upon line, precept upon precept.
From the scriptures.
Testing all things.
That’s not a comfortable journey that leads to one saying that modern Christianity is the truth.
But it doesn’t lead one to see Islam or Judaism having truth either..
It’s all leavened. It’s all corrupted.
It’s all about 2,000 years of demon possessed unclean swine doctrines that shouldn’t be touched or consumed, according to scripture.
Islam, Judaism and modern Christianity wouldn’t agree with that opinion.
That’s okay.
They don’t believe today is the Father’s 4th work day either.
They either don’t have the Son, so they don’t have the Father.(Islam and Judaism)
Or they have a version of the Son that Satan and the Beast and Antichrist Papacy sells as truth. (Papacy)
Satan, the Beasts and Antichrists are on the scenes today.
And at work today.
Today is false God tiws day, according to Satan.
Or
Today is the 5th day, of the 8th month, as in the days of Moses.
Or the 5th day, of the 2nd month, as in the days of Noah.
The 4th work day.
According to His Creation and His Scriptures.
That 4th work day commemorates the creation of the sun,moon,stars for signs, appointments,days and years..
Satan doesn’t sell today as the Father’s 4th work day.
It’s not hard to see who the world wanders after if one sees the alternative version of time on display.
What’s hard is being able to see it while blind that there even is another way to tell time..
Using the sun,moon, and stars.
And His Word, and His Word Made Flesh.
You were looking on Babylonian October 8 for an event.
An event happened.
And it pointed to His Sovereign plan.
On His schedule.
On His calendar.
Not man’s.
It’s also a great big confirmation that the Word Made Flesh wasn’t born when the church says He was. A manchild who will rule the world with a rod of iron, and caught up to heaven ,was born on that day.
A New Moon Day in scriptures.
And nowhere near December 25.
And that day isn’t October 8 even last year.
But on the Father’s calendar, each New Moon Day points to His Son’s birth. And a specific one is hinted at in Scripture,even in the New Testament, that helps show that the Word truly became Flesh.
But a problem arises.
It means the doctrines in the church of birth on December 25, circumcision on January 1 and presentation in temple on February 2, are false doctrines.
Those are doctrines of demons if not Truth.
Does one dare test His Death,Burial, and Resurrection doctrines in the church, against His Scriptures, if the Scriptures can expose the church’s doctrines of His birth?
Some may be led to test and prove all things.
And although Islam and Judaism could survive without December 25, January 1, and February 2, they cannot survive their Friday, Saturday and Sunday being exposed as counterfeit.
Neither can Satan.
And that’s the ultimate point I am making.
Satan sells the world counterfeits.
And testing those worldly truths against scripture, is the only way to overcome Satan’s lies.
Satan sells false goddess frigg day, holy false God saturn day, and false God sun day..
The Father, His Word,His Word made Flesh, teaches Passover, Unleavened Bread,First Fruits, as His 6th,7th,1st days.
The latter version is actually Paul’s first importance of the gospel.
In accordance with the scriptures.
But That’s not the first importance of the gospel today to modern Christianity and church.
And Islam and Judaism can’t help the church out because they need Friday,Saturday and Sunday to not be counterfeits..
The whole Babylonian system would fall.
Satan’s lies would fall.
Islam,Judaism,Christianity, the Mother and her harlot daughters, need Satan’s lies to continue.
For the Kingdom to Truly Come,Satan and his lies, need to go.
And many of those lies are central to the faith and doctrines of Islam,Judaism and Christianity.
And central to how the world works and operates. And worships..
That all has to run its course.
Until then, we pray for His Kingdom to come.
It's tied to the Julian calendar. The lunar and solar years have to be tied together to keep the seasons coming in the correct months.
You have a couple poonts I would wholeheartedly agree, and then the remainder has no Scripural support.
1. The Kingdom of Heaven is not here on earth at this time, although the citizenship is being formed. That citizenship will consist of new and Old Testament saints. The church is part of the NT saints, but is not the whole of that citizenship.
2. Christianity is at its heart, the embracing of an ancient Hebrew religion, believing all things that the Scriptures contain. Judaism for its part disbelieves the Scriptures and departs into its own religion out of preference. They were called “Little Christs” in Antioch first. You describe sin creep into the church— there is a biblical remedy for that: Church discipline— if congregants have the stomach to maintain purity. The Bible doesn’t know anything about the modern church. There is only the church.
3. Anti-Christs always were present in and around the church; the church always has to contend and guard against them during its physical presence on earth.
4. The church is the bride of Christ, having a distinct role separate from Israel in eternity.
5. October 8 (actually 6-9) was highlighted by watchmen in the church as a very likely window of the church being snatched up, as prophesied. We find ourselves still in the season for this event because the Day of Atonement is right around the corner.
6. It is with absolute certainty that both end time events, the rapture and 2d advent have to occur before Israel turns 81. Yes, a 7 year tribulation has to be squeezed into the remaining years. Do the math and you can see why there is such excitement.
Finally, the followers of Christ should be all the more unified, joyful and penitent in this season, as it is a wonderful time for self-examination. It is not something to be feared— unless you are outside of Christ. Repentence and trusting Christ is the remedy.
Being mindful of these things, it’s amazing how the cares of this world fades.
A generation is not defined by how long a person subjectively can live, it is defined by God in Psalm 90:10—— 80. Israel has never, ever survived intact as a sovereign nation beyond 80 years. Do a study on what 80 consistently represents in the Bible, there is no coincidence.
As for Rev, that interpretation is outside of a conservative view. Rev 12 isn’t specifically chronological as far as the church is concerned, because the narrative has already shifted to Israel in the Tribulation— the vision John saw gives the connection between Israel and the church, kind of like a backstory using symbology, and that is why it confuses many.
Here is a good commentary:
https://www.planobiblechapel.org/tcon/notes/html/nt/revelation/revelation.htm
Here is the end times deceit I am referencing.
While the church is here.
Satan, Daniel’s 4th Beast and Antichrist Papacy sells a False Christ.
That false Christ is named Jesus, just as the scriptures name the True Christ Jesus.
The False Christ has nothing to do with the Word Made Flesh..
The False Christ is only confirmed by using Satan, Daniel’s 4th Beast and Antichrist Papacys timekeeping..
So, The False Christ is born on The Beast’s
Appointment day of December 25.
The False Christ is circumcised on the Beast’s appointment day of January 1.
The False Christ is presented in the temple on the Beast’s appointment day of February 2.
None, zip, zero, nada, of what Satan, Daniel’s 4th Beast or Antichrist Papacy teaches on His birth, is found or proved in the scriptures.
It’s only considered true because Daniel’s 4th Beast and Antichrist papacy control times and law..
The Scriptures, even Revelation 12, and His Creation, shows the timing of the birth of the Christ..
That will also show when the Truth was circumcised, and when the Truth was presented in the temple..
The Scriptures also show the timing of His death, burial and resurrection.
The Beast’s Friday, Saturday and Sunday is as fake as it’s December 25, January 1, and February 2..
Can you see why someone sees the end times differently if they see Satan has his own version of Jesus, today?
A false version that gets confirmed only by using Daniel’s 4th Beast and Antichrist Papacy powers and principalities. If one tells time like the Scriptures teach, the counterfeits get exposed.
Headline to this.
The Papacy has a different version of Jesus than the Apostles and disciples..
Satan, Daniel’s 4th Beast and the Antichrist Papacy sell another Jesus and another gospel than the first Apostles and disciples.
One doesn’t have to agree with that premise.
If they don’t agree with that premise, they won’t agree on the timing of the end time events. Or the pieces on the playing board.
An end times deceit is ongoing
Satan has his own version of Jesus.
Daniel’s 4th Beast and Antichrist Papacy has the same false Christ..
That’s not a comfortable statement.
But I am comfortable in stating it because of being led to test and prove all things..
And I know I won’t get invited to many iftars or fake shabbat Saturn day dinners or Christmas and Easter dinners
The whole world is deceived today. All religion too.
Even and especially, Christianity.
And nobody has left..
But people are free to not accept that premise.
It uncomplicates the end times greatly.
The only thing one is called to do if they see it and hear it, is to come out of it..
Rev 10:6-7 And sware by him that liveth for ever and ever, who created heaven, and the things that therein are, and the earth, and the things that therein are, and the sea, and the things which are therein, that there should be time no longer: But in the days of the voice of the seventh angel, when he shall begin to sound, the mystery of God should be finished, as he hath declared to his servants the prophets.Interesting, there should be TIME no longer is connected with the mystery of God should be finished. When you have two parallel lines in scripture, they follow the rule of 1 Corinthians 15:46. The first is natural then afterward spiritual. Note the first division in scripture the two Testaments follows this as an example. The Old Testament gives us the natural man the New Testament the spiritual man.
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