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Free Land in Russia for Families and Churches
Global Orthodox ^ | 9/17/21

Posted on 09/25/2021 6:04:48 PM PDT by marshmallow

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To: marshmallow

And a Siberian Khatru in each pot.


21 posted on 09/25/2021 7:11:55 PM PDT by NavyShoe
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To: marshmallow

Thanks but....I’ll pass.


22 posted on 09/25/2021 7:25:40 PM PDT by rbg81 (Truth is stranger than fiction)
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To: dfwgator

Nice use of unusual lyrics. Gratifying to see that Freepers have enough style and class to understand great prog rock.


23 posted on 09/25/2021 7:27:48 PM PDT by ferg flute
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To: marshmallow

Only 1 hectare? Make it 500 with a river and we’ll talk.


24 posted on 09/25/2021 7:35:21 PM PDT by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes.)
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To: ferg flute; dfwgator; mcshot; NavyShoe

I saw them a year or two before Chris Squire died. They basically played Close to the Edge and Fragile straight through, and a couple/few misc. encore songs.

Awesome. Here’s the set list. I didn’t even have to look very hard.

https://www.setlist.fm/setlist/yes/2014/atlanta-symphony-hall-atlanta-ga-63c14e83.html

Heckuva show.


25 posted on 09/25/2021 7:36:16 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: marshmallow

I’d do it if I didn’t have family.....


26 posted on 09/25/2021 7:38:39 PM PDT by cherry
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To: dynachrome

Awful mosquitos in the summertime, too. So bad it makes you pray for winter.


27 posted on 09/25/2021 7:38:53 PM PDT by MercyFlush (The American Revolution was a violent revolt against a dictatorship. )
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To: marshmallow
frozen8867 I'm all in.
28 posted on 09/25/2021 7:39:34 PM PDT by SimpleJack
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To: marshmallow

I assumed this was 1921.


29 posted on 09/25/2021 7:45:55 PM PDT by caseinpoint (Don't get thickly involved in thin things.)
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To: FreedomPoster

I’ve seen them several times over the years. Always a phenomenal concert, even when I didn’t yet understand Tales from Topographic Oceans.

Great tagline, by the way.


30 posted on 09/25/2021 7:56:33 PM PDT by ferg flute
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To: ferg flute

I think that was the first time I saw them, touring behind that album. Likewise, several times over 4 decades plus some.


31 posted on 09/25/2021 8:04:37 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: MercyFlush

A they go Capitalist we go Communist.


32 posted on 09/25/2021 8:17:17 PM PDT by Don Corleone (leave the gun, take the canolis)
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To: marshmallow

They drove my ancestors out once already after promises of free churches and land.


33 posted on 09/25/2021 8:17:59 PM PDT by redgolum (If this is civilization, I will be the barbarian. )
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To: marshmallow

Ironic isn’t it? Russia becomes ‘freer’ while America dives headlong into communism/marxism.


34 posted on 09/25/2021 8:21:59 PM PDT by LibertyWoman (Woe to those who call evil good, and good evil... Isaiah 5:20)
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To: Veto!

I’d love to go ice skating on Lake Baikal....

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pgo12hC8bOs


35 posted on 09/25/2021 8:50:25 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: marshmallow; All

Have to wonder why a bunch of Muscovites and folks from Peter don’t become more aggressive about land in Eastern Siberia, even though a long ride.

It makes sense that Moscow would want more people North of China, despite the strong 2010 joint Russia-China defense pact.

Also have to consider real land ownership, and control of land. That is tricky.

The church idea has to mean some kind of permissive extension of national Russian Orthodox Church endeavors, as most denominations and evangelicals would not be welcome.

I have spent a good portion of my life in Russia, and have known dozens of evangelical missionaries thrown out, beginning in the 1990’s (all the way to the present), as well as formerly underground Russian pastors who have been severely persecuted (even today), and churches shut down.

Have personally crossed paths with Russian Orthodox priests who were very gnostic and agnostic at best, and quite protective of national socialist policies, who were very close to military and police leadership.

I briefly worked with priests (plural) in Moscow who were also FSB.

Some of my most undesired “run-ins” came from leadership at Sergei Posad and from Moscow, who were largely agnostic, (with one collar wearing priest who was atheist), who were very leftist politically (similar to Pope Francis, but more nationalistic), who successfully worked to get a good number of evangelical missionaries thrown out of Russia.

One priest I knew from the East side of Moscow (who taught philosophy at Moscow State University, and several satellite schools), literally taught “there is no truth in the universe, including that of a God, with one exception - there is no truth.” He was in very close with a number of FSB just East of the Kremlin.

He too would have to fall into the category of atheistic.

Siberia has many very beautiful rural places, but if Russia mixes it up (militarily) in a big way in the West (Eastern Med region), China is big enough (for now) in population and military, to walk right into Siberia.

China is already the biggest trader (by far) of materials and goods with Eastern Siberia.

If Russia possessed, and adhered to a constitution as strong on limited government as the once practiced US Constitution, now that would be something!


36 posted on 09/25/2021 8:59:31 PM PDT by patriotfury ((May the fleas of a thousand camels occupy mo' ham mads tents!) )
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To: dfwgator

Indeed. Do you know that in winter, trucks drive across the ice from north to south...rather than driving around it.


37 posted on 09/25/2021 9:15:00 PM PDT by Veto! (Political Correctness Offends Me)
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To: ASOC

Many billionaires in Russia., I was particularly interested in Khodorkovsky who disagreed with Putin at a large meeting of Russian rich fellows and was sent to Siberia for awhile, ended up exiled in France, I believe. There was a youtube video of the large round-table meeting where Putin got mad at him and sent him off.

I occasionally look at an online publication called “Russia Beyond the Headlines,” that features cultural things like great recipes, pictures and reports on old churches, etc.


38 posted on 09/25/2021 9:25:53 PM PDT by Veto! (Political Correctness Offends Me)
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To: dfwgator; ferg flute

Not right away
Not right away


39 posted on 09/25/2021 9:39:45 PM PDT by Larry Lucido (Donate! Don't just post clickbait!)
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To: marshmallow; All

Here’s a youtube channel from a Danish ex-pat living somewhere in Siberia...

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCq3CjAhR9foEpCXj88sMAKQ


40 posted on 09/26/2021 9:57:40 AM PDT by ADemocratNoMore (The Fourth Estate is now the Fifth Column)
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