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A church rises from the ashes: Latin Mass returns to church abandoned by diocese in 1980s
LifeSite News ^ | July 30, 2021 | Stephen Koxx

Posted on 07/30/2021 5:01:45 PM PDT by ebb tide

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To: MurphsLaw
That this breakaway SSPX group - who craps all over the guidance of the Holy Spirit, illegitimately denying Apostolic succession of the Church- in the same way it's enemies do... will be eternally and sinfully UN-Forgivable, for anyone.

Lies are never understandable. The SSPX has never denied apostolic succession.

And for you information, Archbishop Lefebve was ordained as a Holy Ghost father in 1929 and elected Superior General of the Holy Ghost Fathers in 1962, so I highly doubt he, or the the many priests he has formed, had or are "crapping" over the Holy Ghost's guidance.

You, Barron and Bergoglio may be getting some supernatural guidance, but it certainly isn't from a holy spirit.

41 posted on 07/31/2021 8:58:58 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: MurphsLaw

“Cdl. Burke has stated this position as well”

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NFN, but there is need to call in the artillary to support your indictment od ebb tide either.

Surely it would not surprise you if, given the warp and woof of the most recent Bergoglian utterance, which if it is to be take seriously at all must at least be considered to have oblitetated once and for all the generous Ratzingerian accommodation known as the Hermeneutic of Continuity, Cardinal Burke himself and others like him are in the process of a change in their cast of mind regarding those who regarded with utter horror the post-conciliar changes to the Roman Rite of the Holy Sacrifice of the Mass?

Do you not think it is possible that Cardinal Burke and other prelates like him are in the process of “re-scrutinizing” the goals and apparent underlying motivations of the VII Council Fathers, and that such fresh scrutiny could potentially lead to a broad indictment of same along lines similar to the one issued so long ago by Archbishop LeFebvre and which, in the Archbishop’s mind at least, justified his then-controversial decision to name as SSPX bishops the four priests he deemed necessary to allow the the Mass of the Ages, which he undoubtedly and quite rightly treasured, to survive and thrive after his death?


42 posted on 08/01/2021 5:33:39 AM PDT by one guy in new jersey
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To: Marchmain

Hmm. Okay. May I ask if you diligently attend weekly mass according to the Novus Ordo Missae?


43 posted on 08/01/2021 5:37:45 AM PDT by one guy in new jersey
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To: ebb tide

Sorry, autocorrect is running rampant.

“***no*** need to call in the ***artillery*** to support your indictment ***of***””


44 posted on 08/01/2021 5:40:52 AM PDT by one guy in new jersey
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To: ebb tide

The West was built upon the Tridentine Rite.

The consequences of the Novus Ordo since 1964 in Europe and the USA speak for themselves today


45 posted on 08/01/2021 5:42:28 AM PDT by mo ("If you understand, no explanation is needed; if you don't understand, no explanation is possible)
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To: one guy in new jersey

I stopped attending parish mass when our archbishop gave a dispensation because of covid. Then I discovered EWTN televised mass, and watch that daily. Since dispensation has been now lifted, I went back to mass, which is hard to take due to many peculiarities here. I’m disabled and older and excused from mass when not feeling well. I always at least watch Mass on internet, ewtn or my own parish. Thanks for caring.


46 posted on 08/01/2021 3:19:00 PM PDT by Marchmain (TLM refugee)
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To: ebb tide; MurphsLaw

Pretty harsh, ebb. Let’s not presume to say who may be receiving the guidance of the Holy Spirit.


47 posted on 08/01/2021 3:20:16 PM PDT by Marchmain (TLM refugee)
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To: Marchmain; MurphsLaw
It's not presumption, Marchmain.

When Bergoglio relegates the title of "Vicar of Christ" to the history books:

When he exclaims such dictatorial nonsense as, "I say this, because it's my church"; or he tells young Catholics, "I want you to make a mess out there", or he proclaims his god is a "God of Surprises:

When he grants private audiences to gay couples, lesbian couples or homosexualists, like his fellow Jesuit, James Martin and tells him to carry on, good soldier: anybody with a sensus fidelium can tell that Bergoglio is not under the guidance of the Holy Ghost.

I never presume who is under the guidance of the Holy Ghost, but I can certainly ascertain who isn't, e.g. Bergoglio, Biden, Pelosi, James Martin, et al).

48 posted on 08/01/2021 7:53:09 PM PDT by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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