Posted on 12/27/2019 10:18:18 AM PST by ebb tide
Jesus Christ fasted in the desert and prayed in the Garden of Gethsemane.
But I guess the prots are too good for any of that. Their theme seems to be “Let’s sin and let our sins be bold!” and “Once saved, always saved!”
It's called Bible study. Letting Scripture interpret Scripture. Something you alluded to for one of the first times I can recall on another thread.
Found in the front of my first Bible (1959) Prayer Before Reading Scripture
Can the Roman Catholic not pray an original prayer of their own in this matter....or any other?
Do ya'll ever just talk to God...in your own words without reciting someone else's prayer??
Best quote of the article. I believe its true.
Oh the horror of getting the Scripture into the local vernacular. /sarc
Not so differently from yourself, I'd like to think.
We pay, consciously, with and for each other, sharing spiritual goods and blessings ceaselessly. It's part of what we mean by the "Communion of Saints."
In communion with them all.
You don't know if you interpreted the bible correctly, that is why the Church has dogma to tell you what the correct interpretation is. If you disagree you are a heretic.
That is why there are at least 200 Protestant denominations in this country.
I speculate there are at least that many Roman Catholic opinions on these threads.
Heresy is common in Christianity, Islam and Judaism.-Tom
Glad to hear YOU do but it sure does seem ya'll have a prayer for everything....as evidenced by the one you posted.
You don't know if you interpreted the bible correctly, that is why the Church has dogma to tell you what the correct interpretation is. If you disagree you are a heretic.
Again...with the small number of verses Rome has dogmatically defined.....how does one know??
>> I speculate there are at least that many Roman Catholic opinions on these threads.<<
Heresy is common in Christianity, Islam and Judaism.-Tom
I agree heresy is common as you note.
How does the Roman Catholic who wants Francis removed so bad they can't stand it know they are not the heretic and Francis is right? He's the one with the formal education and the "blessing" of the College of Cardinals is he not? I see Roman Catholics who seem to think they're as equally trained as he.
How does the Roman Catholic who thinks there hasn't been a valid pope since 1958 know they are right....or wrong?
I believe that you sincerely believe it.
I'll start keeping a list though for any future conversations.
Thanks! I'd appreciate that.
Your denomination has provided you with no assistance in this matter.
Which is a problem only if the Church has also said, as you claim some Catholics hold, that one cannot read and understand the Bible for yourself. I don't accept that claim, so recognize no problem.
You say that like it's a bad thing.
I am a life long Catholic and read the Bible every morning and hear four readings from it at every Mass.Please feel free to drop the snark.
I am no longer a catholic, and I have personal reasons for that, but I hold no ill will against the church...until this Marxist Pope.
If I were a devout Catholic, I would be railing against this fraud. I think he is completely into the homosexual movement, the social justice movement, and Marxism.
I thought (and still do) John Paul II was an amazing man. This Pope is evil.
Same question to you. How do you know or understand what youve read without Romes official dogmatic rendering? Its a serious question.
Your fancies do not offend me. They only make me smile.
The Latin Vulgate itself was a very early translation of Scriptures from their original languages (Hebrew and Koine Greek) into the vernacular (which what the word "Vulgate" means), most Western literary languages having developed in Catholic civilization only in the late Middle Ages, about the time of Dante and Chaucer--- Late Middle Ages and the Early Modern Period.
Note that: for more than a millennium, Latin was THE unifying written language of Central and Western Europe, from Oslo to Sicily, from Iona to Prague: "written" was synonymous with "written in Latin" whether you were a fur trader or an architect, an astronomer, a cleric or a cop.
As the various Western European languages developed due to the flourishing of Catholic civilization, typically the Church itself was the first to attempt to capture these languages in written form, and Bible translations are often the oldest surviving texts in these newly written-down languages.
A variety of translations and vernacular adaptations flourished between the twelfth and fifteenth centuries with no documented institutional opposition at all.
The famous Wessex Gospels ---the four Gospels in idiomatic Old English, in the West Saxon dialect ---appeared in about 990. According to the historian Victoria Thompson, every other religious text was available in English by the eleventh century.
For the sake of the Scriptures, I say, "Thank God for the Catholic Church."
Im not sure if Francis is a Sodom or Gomorrah Pope. A little of both I suspect.
As I said in an earlier post, Pope Francis is to the Catholic Church what Obama was to this country.
Both organizations, the Church and our Country are not going to be the same.
How Catholics solve their problem I don't know. -Tom .
Yeah , Wycliffe and those guys would take issue with your version of history.
This is not your writing style. When one posts work that's not theirs....and this isn't yours, one is supposed to cite the source.
That's plagiarism and I imagine would be a mortal sin for the Roman Catholic.
You've been called on this many times in the past for this....by me.
It's a poor reflection on your part.
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