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Protestantism, Modernism, Atheism
Crisis Magazine ^ | November 28, 2017 | Julia Meloni

Posted on 11/28/2017 12:09:34 PM PST by ebb tide

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To: Hrvatski Noahid

Yet when Josiah read the book of the law to the people they understood it.


981 posted on 12/06/2017 6:44:33 AM PST by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone
But practically all of the precepts appear non-understandable. Their practical applications are neither defined nor explained in the text.

I wonder who is the Noahdite’s go to guy? The one who will tell us what it all means? Do you suppose a Catholic priest could do the same thing?

982 posted on 12/06/2017 6:47:21 AM PST by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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To: ealgeone
Yet when Josiah read the book of the law to the people they understood it.

Maybe the people were not as stupid as others think they were.

983 posted on 12/06/2017 6:51:43 AM PST by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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To: Mark17

Doubt it. They haven’t in 2000 years produced an exegetical position on the texts. But ask about Mary and you’ve got whole schools devoted to Mariology.


984 posted on 12/06/2017 6:53:02 AM PST by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone

There is a commandment of circumcision, but one will not find an explanation in the Written Torah of what circumcision means, the where, what and how. Likewise there is a prohibition of working on the Sabbath, but there is no definition as to what constitutes forbidden tasks. There are commandments of fringes on four-cornered garments, and phylacteries placed on hand and head, but there is no explanation of how these are to be produced or how they are to be worn. There is also a mandate of ritual slaughter that renders kosher species of animals permissible for Jewish consumption, but there are no instructions for how this is to be performed. Deuteronomy 12:21 states “slaughter...as I have commanded you”, yet nowhere in the Written Torah do we find the details of that command. Also, the Hebrew text consists of consonants only. There are no written vowels. Words without vowels are clearly ambiguous. They could be read in many different ways with altogether differing meanings.


985 posted on 12/06/2017 7:06:11 AM PST by Hrvatski Noahid
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To: ealgeone; Hrvatski Noahid
You make the argument of the Gnostics. Only they could understand the “hidden” knowledge. God’s Word is given so we can understand it. I encourage all to read His Word and seek His wisdom. He will answer.

Of course you assume that G-d's Word was given so "the milkmaid" could read it and "get saved." There is nothing in the Torah about "getting saved." Once again, you simply eisegete chrstianity into the Hebrew Bible, where it doesn't belong.

Thing is, the Hebrew Bible was never given to the world at large. It was given to the Nation of Israel and is to be passed down from father to son. Chrstianity appropriated it but you're actually reading someone else's mail. And since you're reading a translation, you're not even reading the real mail!

Hrvatski Noahid: Ealgeone is a Protestant and is here arguing against Catholicism, with Judaism filling in for the Pope. They inject this anti-Catholic polemic in an area where it simply does not belong.

986 posted on 12/06/2017 9:23:14 AM PST by Zionist Conspirator (Vegam Yehudah tillachem biYrushalayim . . . .)
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To: Zionist Conspirator

> Ealgeone is a Protestant and is here arguing against Catholicism, with Judaism filling in for the Pope. They inject this anti-Catholic polemic in an area where it simply does not belong.

Protestantism and Catholicism are equally heretical. The theological details of the new religion are secondary. If it is new, it is forbidden.


987 posted on 12/06/2017 10:04:29 AM PST by Hrvatski Noahid
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To: Zionist Conspirator
Thing is, the Hebrew Bible was never given to the world at large. It was given to the Nation of Israel and is to be passed down from father to son. Chrstianity appropriated it but you're actually reading someone else's mail. And since you're reading a translation, you're not even reading the real mail!

You have the original Ten Commandments on the tablets God gave to Moses??

988 posted on 12/06/2017 10:08:11 AM PST by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone
You have the original Ten Commandments on the tablets God gave to Moses??

For someone who constantly preaches sola scriptura, you sure don't know your scripture.

[16] And made by the work of God: the writing also of God was graven in the tables. [17] And Josue hearing the noise of the people shouting, said to Moses: The noise of battle is heard in the camp. [18] But he answered: It is not the cry of men encouraging to fight, nor the shout of men compelling to flee: but I hear the voice of singers. [19] And when he came nigh to the camp, he saw the calf, and the dances: and being very angry, he threw the tables out of his hand, and broke them at the foot of the mount: [20] And laying hold of the calf which they had made, he burnt it, and beat it to powder, which he strowed into water, and gave thereof to the children of Israel to drink.
Exodus, Chapter 32

989 posted on 12/06/2017 10:45:59 AM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide
22“These words the LORD spoke to all your assembly at the mountain from the midst of the fire, of the cloud and of the thick gloom, with a great voice, and He added no more. He wrote them on two tablets of stone and gave them to me. Deut 5:22 NASB

19It came about, as soon as Moses came near the camp, that he saw the calf and the dancing; and Moses’ anger burned, and he threw the tablets from his hands and shattered them at the foot of the mountain. 20He took the calf which they had made and burned it with fire, and ground it to powder, and scattered it over the surface of the water and made the sons of Israel drink it. Ex 32:19-20 NASB

ל֫וּחַ

luach

tablets

http://biblehub.com/hebrew/3871.htm

And do you even know what sola scriptura means? Because based on your post you indicate you don't.

Answer: The phrase sola scriptura is from the Latin: sola having the idea of “alone,” “ground,” “base,” and the word scriptura meaning “writings”—referring to the Scriptures. Sola scriptura means that Scripture alone is authoritative for the faith and practice of the Christian. The Bible is complete, authoritative, and true. “All Scripture is God-breathed and is useful for teaching, rebuking, correcting and training in righteousness” (2 Timothy 3:16).https://www.gotquestions.org/sola-scriptura.html

I think Rule #4 might be in play here.

990 posted on 12/06/2017 12:09:27 PM PST by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone

None of what you posted explains why you didn’t know where the tablets were this day.

You can take your silly “rules” and find another playground to play in.


991 posted on 12/06/2017 2:05:04 PM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide; ealgeone

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The tablets are inside the Ark!
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992 posted on 12/06/2017 2:09:14 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: ebb tide
None of what you posted explains why you didn’t know where the tablets were this day.

You miss the point.

You can take your silly “rules” and find another playground to play in.

Perhaps you best run back to your caucus threads and debate if the pope is valid or not with your buddy.

993 posted on 12/06/2017 2:11:08 PM PST by ealgeone
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To: Zionist Conspirator
Of course you assume that G-d's Word was given so "the milkmaid" could read it and "get saved."

Yes...that is correct. That is why John was moved by the Holy Spirit to write:

30Therefore many other signs Jesus also performed in the presence of the disciples, which are not written in this book; 31but these have been written so that you may believe that Jesus is the Christ, the Son of God; and that believing you may have life in His name. John 20:30-31 NASB

994 posted on 12/06/2017 2:16:58 PM PST by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone
You miss the point.

I didn't miss any points except that you don't know your scripture.

995 posted on 12/06/2017 2:21:47 PM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: Elsie
No humans were involved at all.

Do you think he was standing next to Moses, when I AM (Jesus) spoke to Moses in the burning bush?

996 posted on 12/06/2017 2:28:16 PM PST by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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To: ebb tide

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PS - I once bought Noahide cover for my Bible! This was more than 30 years ago, it looked good and lasted a number of years, until it wore out. In the meantime, the Bible itself continues and sits just feet from me as I write this.

Let the reader understand.


997 posted on 12/06/2017 2:29:51 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion
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To: ebb tide
I didn't miss any points except that you don't know your scripture.

Comical coming from a Roman Catholic.

998 posted on 12/06/2017 2:29:58 PM PST by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone
Comical coming from a Roman Catholic.

Oh my, what another adult response from you!

999 posted on 12/06/2017 2:32:09 PM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: editor-surveyor

So you reject the Bible, namely Exodus Chapter 32?


1,000 posted on 12/06/2017 2:34:04 PM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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