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Protestantism, Modernism, Atheism
Crisis Magazine ^ | November 28, 2017 | Julia Meloni

Posted on 11/28/2017 12:09:34 PM PST by ebb tide

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To: ebb tide; metmom
Yes, assurance of salvation is a beautiful thing. Sorry you don’t have any, but that is your problem bro, not mine.
I still have Bible studies with my catholic friends. Most of the Catholics that live around here, are of the Berean type. They search the scriptures, but I tell them to take off their Catholic blinders first. Now, some of them have left the OTC, and have assurance of salvation. It’s beautiful thing. You need to try it. 😂👍
1,061 posted on 12/06/2017 4:29:55 PM PST by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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To: ebb tide

Of all the stupid posts I’ve seen from you I think that’s #1.


1,062 posted on 12/06/2017 4:31:57 PM PST by ealgeone
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To: ebb tide

You won’t even affirm or deny if you believe John 5:24. Which is it? Yea or nay?


1,063 posted on 12/06/2017 4:33:57 PM PST by ealgeone
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To: Mark17; metmom
Yes, assurance of salvation is a beautiful thing.

Hate to break to you, but none of us has "assurance" until our final Judgement by Jesus Christ at our deaths.

Or do you dare presume you know better than Christ?

1,064 posted on 12/06/2017 4:35:19 PM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide; metmom; ealgeone
Interesting. You think the sin of presumption is a "beautiful thing"? So did Lucifer.

One big difference. Lucifer doesn’t believe, to the saving of the soul. I do, but lately, I have been wondering about another certain individual, who will remain unnamed. 🔥🌋👎🤣🐐

1,065 posted on 12/06/2017 4:37:57 PM PST by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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To: ealgeone
Of all the stupid posts I’ve seen from you I think that’s #1.

Unregenerate man.

1,066 posted on 12/06/2017 4:39:40 PM PST by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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To: Mark17; metmom; ealgeone
One big difference. Lucifer doesn’t believe, to the saving of the soul.

You don't know what Lucifer believes.

And just for your information why does Luther do his best to prevent souls from being saved?

1,067 posted on 12/06/2017 4:43:03 PM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide

John 5:24.....you affirm or deny? It’s a simple answer.


1,068 posted on 12/06/2017 4:45:48 PM PST by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone
Well, it's only you protestants and muslims who think they already have assurance of salvation despite any future sins they commit.
1,069 posted on 12/06/2017 4:50:33 PM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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To: ebb tide; aMorePerfectUnion; ealgeone; metmom
Hate to break to you, but none of us has "assurance" until our final Judgement by Jesus Christ at our deaths.

Hate to break it to you, but millions, including me, completely disagree with your theology, like that has never happened before. 😁 If you want to wait till you croak, to find out whether you go to Heaven or Hell, knock yourself out. I have to warn you, however, if you wait that long, be prepared to yield to the downward pull of that slightly warmer place. 🔥 Have a nice eternity bro. I intend to. 👋

1,070 posted on 12/06/2017 4:55:57 PM PST by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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To: ebb tide
Well, it's only you protestants and muslims who think they already have assurance of salvation despite any future sins they commit.

Continuing our discussion of interreligious dialogue, today we will reflect on dialogue with Muslims, who “together with us adore the one, merciful God” (Lumen gentium, n. 16; cf. CCC, n. 841). The Church has a high regard for them, convinced that their faith in the transcendent God contributes to building a new human family based on the highest aspirations of the human heart.

2. We Christians joyfully recognize the religious values we have in common with Islam. Today I would like to repeat what I said to young Muslims some years ago in Casablanca: “We believe in the same God, the one God, the living God, the God who created the world and brings his creatures to their perfection” (Insegnamenti, VIII/2, [1985], p. 497).

https://w2.vatican.va/content/john-paul-ii/en/audiences/1999/documents/hf_jp-ii_aud_05051999.html

Verga played a better game of chess than you do.

1,071 posted on 12/06/2017 5:00:12 PM PST by ealgeone
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To: ebb tide
You don't know what Lucifer believes.

So tell me oh wise one, what does Lucifer believe? I know he starts false religions, like the one in Rome.
I don’t know a whole bunch about Brother Martin, but if he opposed the OTC, then I agree with him. It must aggravate you to know you will have to spend eternity kneeling next to Luther, that is, if you make it. I am not sure you will, so will you? 🤣🙃

1,072 posted on 12/06/2017 5:08:54 PM PST by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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To: editor-surveyor
Except for the Ark of the Covenant, which only Wyatt was allowed to see, the sites are there and well verified.

How convenient.

Nobody can disprove his claim.

1,073 posted on 12/06/2017 5:18:34 PM PST by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: ebb tide

I didn’t ask about the Trinity.

I asked who the Catholics identified with and that doesn’t tell me.


1,074 posted on 12/06/2017 5:20:11 PM PST by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: ealgeone
I guess some popes think they and the Muzzies have a lot in common. I am not sure all the rank and file Catholics do, some might, but I don’t know even one true Christian who does. 👎🙃 On the other hand, I DO know a few ex Muslims. They know what they have been delivered from. There seems to be a growing number of ex Muslims here. Guess what? They are not flocking to the OTC. 😂👍
1,075 posted on 12/06/2017 5:20:41 PM PST by Mark17 (Genesis chapter 1 verse 1. In the beginning GOD....And the rest, as they say, is HIS-story)
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To: Mark17
I guess some popes think they and the Muzzies have a lot in common.

Their church...they gotta believe it! Unam Sanctam!

1,076 posted on 12/06/2017 5:23:13 PM PST by ealgeone
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To: ebb tide; Mark17
Hate to break to you, but none of us has "assurance" until our final Judgement by Jesus Christ at our deaths. Or do you dare presume you know better than Christ?

Jesus tells us different and I will go with what Jesus says over what ebb tide says.

John 3:3-8 Jesus answered him,“Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born again he cannot see the kingdom of God.” Nicodemus said to him, “How can a man be born when he is old? Can he enter a second time into his mother's womb and be born?” Jesus answered, “Truly, truly, I say to you, unless one is born of water and the Spirit, he cannot enter the kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. Do not marvel that I said to you, ‘You must be born again.’ The wind blows where it wishes, and you hear its sound, but you do not know where it comes from or where it goes. So it is with everyone who is born of the Spirit.”

John 3:14-18 And as Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, so must the Son of Man be lifted up, that whoever believes in him may have eternal life. “For God so loved the world, that he gave his only Son, that whoever believes in him should not perish but have eternal life. For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but in order that the world might be saved through him. Whoever believes in him is not condemned, but whoever does not believe is condemned already, because he has not believed in the name of the only Son of God.

John 5:24 Truly, truly, I say to you, whoever hears my word and believes him who sent me has eternal life. He does not come into judgment, but has passed from death to life.

John 6:40 For this is the will of my Father, that everyone who looks on the Son and believes in him should have eternal life, and I will raise him up on the last day.”

John 11:25-26 Jesus said to her, “I am the resurrection and the life. Whoever believes in me, though he die, yet shall he live, and everyone who lives and believes in me shall never die. Do you believe this?”

1,077 posted on 12/06/2017 5:23:55 PM PST by metmom ( ...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith..)
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To: metmom

ebb’s given his answer...the Roman Catholic Church.


1,078 posted on 12/06/2017 5:24:02 PM PST by ealgeone
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To: metmom; ebb tide

And he still won’t affirm or deny John 5:24. Amazing.


1,079 posted on 12/06/2017 5:24:36 PM PST by ealgeone
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To: Mark17
So tell me oh wise one, what does Lucifer believe?

How would I know? I just know he's damned to Hell for eternitiy.

But you apparently think you do know better. So did Martin Luther and Mohammed. Who do you think tempted those individuals?

And, finally, may almighty God prevent me from spending eternity kneeling next to Luther for surely I'll then know I'm not in Heaven.

1,080 posted on 12/06/2017 5:25:03 PM PST by ebb tide (We have a rogue curia in Rome.)
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