Posted on 06/23/2017 6:21:23 PM PDT by NYer
John 17:17 Sanctify them through thy truth: thy word is truth. The words of the Lord. So Jefferson did have a problem with objective truth when he dissected his own Bible despite this piece to the contrary.
>>So is your issue that they use Facebook?
More with the way they use Facebook. There was an interview with their Social Media manager in which he was rather proud of how he could manipulate the visibility of comments without alerting the contributors to the fact they were being censored.
That was an entirely different attitude from the teachers I had from 1972 through 1987 who openly discussed all relevant topics.
Sadly those teachers were never informed, or taught, about the issues and writings relating to Luther’s Antisemitism.
Otherwise I believe they would’ve honestly discussed it in the context of the history of WWII (since history class generally came right after 1st period religion).
Also, I took the same History courses - at the same College where those teachers studied. So did my wife who was an LCMS teacher for 25+ years.
We were both kind of shocked at what had been deliberately, apparently, left out of the curriculum at ALL levels of education.
And, despite protestations of some fallible and uninspired dominionists to the contrary - the ideas articulated in the Virginia Act are further codified in the 1st Amendment -- with the intent cast in stone for all to see with their own eyes and free mind.
"EDUCATE THE COMMON PEOPLE"
--Thomas Jefferson
Deal with it.
We were both kind of shocked at what had been deliberately, apparently, left out of the curriculum
I'm shocked that you quit learning, never went to LCMS Bible class?
So did my wife who was an LCMS teacher for 25+ years.
Were you LCMS members at the time?
As most people's do. He also cut up his Bible, unlike most people.
Deal with it.
Sounds like a plan for you.
be out till Monday.
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http://resist.com/Instauration/OtherPubs-20120723/TheJewsAndTheirLies-Luther.pdf
>>Didn’t think so.
Uhuh. Didn't think. So?
So. Maybe you (or at least some people) would have done more thinking if it had been in the curriculum.
>>I’m shocked that you quit learning, never went to LCMS Bible class?
Tell us how “Shocked” you are at all those scripture references.
Mr. “Didn’t think so”.
>>yet I knew of his writings.
Sure you did Mr. “Didn’t think so” — Just like you “knew of” all those scripture references... NOT.
>>Just studying to pass the test?
You mean in Biology honors?
How many Catholic pretenders did you see on Sunday with an I am with her bumper sticker on their car?
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No. There is obviously a difference between sinning, which everybody does, and defiantly sinning. A person could fornicate, regret it, repent, and stay Catholic. But if you declare that fornication isn't a sin because you know better than Scripture, and openly say to all and sundry that you defy the sinfulness of fornication, you've put yourself in deliberate opposition to the Church.
The most problematic aspect of all this, today, is that the hierarchy is so spineless and corrupt that they refuse to confront and address people and groups that would be have been properly dealt with in the not so distant past. Instead of making it clear that Nancy Pelosi is excommunicated, they mumble something about Pelosi excommunicating herself, and then give her communion and stay mum while she announces to the world that she's pro-abortion and Catholic.
Religious History.
I told you I hadn't read it. Why would I? Is it profitable, doctrinal? Did I need confirmation Luther was a sinner? Because he wrote this execrable work does that invalidate his other Christ-centered works?
I am shocked that Luther misused scripture like Satan does in producing this work.
>> I am shocked that Luther misused scripture like Satan does in producing this work.
Uhuh. Was it negligent of the LCMS not to include that material somewhere in its curriculum for preparing teachers so that the discovery wouldn’t have been so “shocking”?
It’s not like they didn’t know about it when CPH published their sanitized edition.
>>Religious History.
If I had known the work existed I would have explored it along with the thoughts of Kierkegaard, Merton, Nietzsche, Crowley etc.
But it was never mentioned in LCMS schools I attended from elementary through college.
What does this mean?
>>I told you I hadn’t read it. Why would I?
Why? For the same reason an annotated version of Mein Kampf is published in Germany today — with the intent of learning from history so it’s not repeated.
The LCMS formally apologized and condemned JATL in 1983. I don't think negligence had anything to do with it. Anti-semitism at the time of Luther wasn't shocking it was prevalent.
That LCMS schools don't promote non-productive studies?Kierkegaard, Merton, Nietzsche, Crowley, read them on non-school time.
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