Posted on 04/24/2017 6:06:18 AM PDT by ubipetrusest
Then you are opposed to calling Saul of Tarsus “St. Paul.” He murdered Christians!
The “devil’s advocate” was abolished decades ago.
She never did repent of her Communist ways, and she praised her Communist friends in the “Catholic Worker”; see http://dorothydayworker.blogspot.com/2012/05/dorothy-day-catholic-communist.html for documentation.
cloudmountain, The devil’s advocate’s role has been downgraded so that those proposing a candidate for canonization do not have to listen to any negative information he has collected. Previously, the devil’s advocate had the power to halt the process, even indefinitely, until his objections were answered to his satisfaction. Sadly, this is no longer the case.
We have the right to write to Rome to protest Day’s cause to
His Eminence Angelo Cardinal Amato
Congregatione per le Cause dei Santi
Palazzo delle Congregazioni
Piazza Pio XII, 3
00193 Roma
Italy
“...Then you are opposed to calling Saul of Tarsus “St. Paul...”
Dorothy Day is no St. Paul - she is a communist who did NOT reform her ways.
If you don’t see how a person who had an abortion can become a saint then what do you think of St Paul???
There are lots of saints who committed terrible evil acts. The question here is whether or not Dorothy Day repented of her sons.
She did repent of her abortion. Your assertion was that abortion is unforgivable. That is heretical.
Some humans think their votes count more than God’s decision.
Of course, I am opposed to her canonization. Catholic Worker is a cancer. I am objecting to the notion that any sin is unforgivable or a permanent bar to canonization.
“...notion...any sin unforgivable...”
I specifically said in my post that post abortive women can be forgiven with the proper confession. I did not say that there is an unforgivable sin here!! You are responding to me as though I never made that point and think that she committed an unforgivable sin, a position that I never took.
Although I did word it unclearly, I was trying to say that Dorothy Day did not repent of her communism, and since communists and atheists do not consider abortion to be evil, it is logical to question Dorothy’s Day’s level of repentance for the abortion. I DID NOT say her abortion is unforgivable. Only God knows, but it points to a life of less than heroic virtue.
Only God knows this of course!!!! However, her record indicates that her earlier life was not completely repented of and this almost certainly includes her abortion, therefore the unrepented socialist actions of her life give the taint of scandal to her entire life and points to it not being of the quality to be raised to the altars as an example of heroic virtuous Catholicism.
A sin that forever precludes one from canonization, even though confessed and absolved, cannot be said to have been “forgiven.”
“...cannot be said to have been forgiven...”
I am not taking the wrong position that a sin even though forgiven somehow forever precludes one from canonization. You keep telling me that this is my position and it is not. I get it!! You are treating me as though I do not understand the teaching.
I am trying to make the point that Dorothy Day’s unrepentant communism raises the possibility that this repentance is a red flag that her total repentance is questionable since abortion rights are inexctricably linked with communism.
Sure, she repented of her own abortion - but socialists take the position of Cuomo, Kennedy, Pelosi, Biden and the other evil sell outs that it is OK for others. This is material cooperation in the evil of other’s actions when one is a leader. Dorothy Day would almost certainly stand with Pelosi and her ilk.
Bergoglio does nothing about pro abort politicians who take communion - Nancy Pelosi comes to mind - and Dorothy Day as a “leader” in the socialist worker movement almost certainly would take the same position.
Pope Pius XI said that no one can be at the same time a good Catholic and a true socialist.
The Church’s doctrine is made in a whole cloth; pull one thread (communism) and the whole fabric disintegrates.
Posts of that length are evidence of neurosis.
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